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June 7th, 2018, 8:18 pm #21

LordArpad wrote:
bill1980 wrote:
LordArpad wrote: I remind you of the Battle of Copenhagen.
Care to expand on your point, because it eludes me?


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Britain not only warned a.sovereign.nation not to have certain.warships, it attacked said soverreign nation which it was not at war with and destroyed said warships.


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Okay, I see. Wasn’t it more they warned the Danes to join them and not Napoleon? Think China will do that? WW3.


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June 8th, 2018, 2:10 pm #22

Hark wrote: Makes you wonder what he's got on the rest of them that they would do this after the dreadful example of Mao.
China is in for a period of rough social and economic adjustment. It is inevitable. They've run the course of the easy economics of cheap labor and have to make the transition that all the other 'Asian Tigers' had to make, except the communist party will absolutely refuse to give any ground to make their economy more competitive. So instead of losening up and becoming more democratic like other Asian nations did, they've doubled down and gone back to the strong man model.
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June 8th, 2018, 9:07 pm #23

bill1980 wrote:
LordArpad wrote: Britain not only warned a.sovereign.nation not to have certain.warships, it attacked said soverreign nation which it was not at war with and destroyed said warships.
Okay, I see.  Wasn’t it more they warned the Danes to join them and not Napoleon?  Think China will do that?  WW3.
No. It wasn't anything to do with not having certain warships.

The first time, Denmark was part of the League of Armed Neutrality along with Russia (which started it), Prussia, & Sweden. They didn't want to join Napoleon, they just didn't want to co-operate with the British blockade of France & objected to the RN stopping their merchant ships. Britain wanted to force Denmark out of the League.

The second time, again, the Danes had no intention of joining Napoleon (their army was mostly deployed on their southern border in case of a French invasion), but both Napoleon & the UK threatened Denmark with dire consequences if it didn't join them. The UK carried out its threat first, turning Denmark from a neutral to an ally of France.
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June 9th, 2018, 12:41 am #24

No politics in toralitarian regimes? No *electoral* politics, sure: but the maneuverings of ambitious lieutenants and courtiers and their factions are - well, what gave us the word "byzantine."

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The difference between "democracy" and "populism" is whether or not the ruling elite likes the outcome.
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