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Joined: 31 Dec 2017, 13:30

31 Dec 2017, 15:59 #1

I recently bought a shell case  and I can not quite identify it.
At first I thought it was a 5.25"/50 (13.4 cm) QF Mark I but i did not find about the measurements of this case.
Thanks in advance vainota.jpg
I think that "K" is KYNOCH and that led me to look in England. 
Can it be Krupp ??

144X845R.gif In this photo it appears next to a 5 "/54  (127x836) to compare.
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Joined: 26 May 2011, 01:26

01 Jan 2018, 18:04 #2

It looks sort of old to be any modern  5" German Naval gun. Could they be the fixed shells used on the 12.7CM/61 dual barrel shore battery mount?
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Joined: 31 Dec 2017, 13:30

01 Jan 2018, 19:09 #3

No thanks. It' s imposible. The shell of 12.8 cm FlaK 40 is 128x958R could have been cut or deformed but the bib does not change its size, the unknow shell is 2 cm bigger than the 12,8 Navalized.
Thank you very much for your support. Every day I learn a little.

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Joined: 15 Mar 2004, 20:39

02 Jan 2018, 12:45 #4

Possibly an Italian 135mm/45?

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_53-45_m1938.php

Also, might want to ask Tony Williams.

http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/index.html

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Joined: 13 Nov 2008, 22:19

02 Jan 2018, 14:07 #5

144.5mm is about 5.7".  Possibly an odd shape which had a double bottleneck that's been cut off?
5.5" is 140mm but both RN and IJN 5.5" were bag charges.
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Joined: 31 Dec 2017, 13:30

02 Jan 2018, 16:16 #6

ChrisPat wrote: 144.5mm is about 5.7".  Possibly an odd shape which had a double bottleneck that's been cut off?
5.5" is 140mm but both RN and IJN 5.5" were bag charges.
dentro.jpg This is the edge of the case seen from the inside I think it's not cut.
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Joined: 26 May 2011, 01:26

03 Jan 2018, 01:43 #7

Well another problem, Krupp Essen used the KP head stamp code. Not a "K"
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04 Jan 2018, 02:25 #8

Yeap. That 144.5mm thing is the "kick in the head" as Dean Martin would say. I'd have to say it's either a developmental case or one for a sabot projectile.
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Joined: 31 Dec 2017, 13:30

04 Jan 2018, 17:38 #9

Mystery solved. It is a 130x845 130mm towed field gun M1954 (M-46)
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/130_mm_to ... 954_(M-46) 
exactly of a variation that I use Finland as a cannon of coastline 130K46
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/130_mm_kanuuna_M-46
Thanks to everyone who helped me.
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