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I would suggest that people who whine on the internet are probably not the same people running the RAF or RN. This may come as a shock, but some of them may have retired years ago and still be spouting on about with no current knowledge...SpazSinbad wrote: IF I'm to worry (it is none of my business - just empathy) it will be about the RAF CRABS outside the JOINT Lightning Force undermining said force. Less so the RNers outside the JLF - either flyboys or fishheads etc. There aren't so many. SADLY there are just too many crabs otherwise moaning and groaning (mostly about what they don't understand as evidenced on pPrune for example). I like to believe, from what I've read and heard so far, from those inside the JLF, is that they get the concept and want to run with it. Good OH.
Sharkey went very weird about the RAF performance over Iraq in 1991. Apparently, RAF Tornado pilots were so frightened by how their aircraft reacted to being lightened by dropping bombs that they ejected, abandoning their weapons officers - & more garbage in a similar vein.cs4160 wrote: Spaz,
Loved Sea Harrier over the Falklands, but I must have missed his bonkers stage. Any highlights or links. I do remember him rallying against losing FAA fast jets, but I must have missed the details. If correct, then yes, very sad.
RNAS Culdrose was considered as a F-35B base according to Air Marshal (retd) Greg Bagwell, former Deputy Commander (Operations), Air Command. However, based on infrastructure changes, noise that would affect the local community and some other factors, Marham was chosen.Scouse wrote: Look this is very simple calculus gents. The RN doesn’t want to pay out to set up Culdrose or Yeovilton as a home base for multi-squadron routine fastjet ops. They want to save the money and spend it on the ships, subs and all the other things those on this board whine on about not having enough of.
They’d rather like the RAF to do that bit especially seeings that Marham has just been set up to do the job. That means though that the RAF get to share the toys and, yes, they have a definition all their own when it comes to sharing.
I’ve sat in their club in Piccadilly and listened to the conversations held over a few sherries!. I know of the dark forces that live in the light blue. That’s irrelevant though.
Forward staging the GR3s to the carriers, for the most part, worked in 82. JFH, after a fashion, worked operationally if not politically. The concept of pushing STOVL air ashore into FOBs worked in the Gulf in 91 and in Afghanistan and was underpinned by offshore support at least initial phase.
What works is enlightened self interest and there’s enough here for the light blue and us to take advantage of.