Mull
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July 6th, 2018, 10:22 am #11

spuddie wrote: I bet many of you have been there - loyal parents and juniors, parent coaching for years, volunteering every week both mum and dad etc. etc. and then your club made it to NPL and then along came the wanderers, travellers and club hoppers - coaches and players BUT more importantly the folding stuff 💵💷💶💰💸 started appearing (under that there table too) ...........and none of it for the loyal upper coming players and or those volunteers👎👎👎👎
But then they came back down - relegated and where have they all gone😢😢😢😢
Reading this felt like De Ja vu.

In the FFAFWNPLWA don’t let anyone tell you that old enough good enough bullshit.....It’s garbage......

If your connected to the coach/committee members that’s the best way to get opertunities....
That ffanpl badge gives everyone a superiority complex.....and considering the product produced at the final level.....it’s embarrassing to now stand back and observe.


FFAFWNPLWA I’ve come to learn is all about large squads ,money ,and egomaniacle coaches learning on the fly! .....
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July 23rd, 2018, 3:34 am #12

nijaco wrote: It should also have a knock on effect to the State League 18s sides too, as long as players & parents can shed their egos to concentrate on playing time, which is much more important anyway than the badge on the shirt!!
will guess there will be the same issue as this year with depth in the 18s falling away quickly as the 16 year olds pull the pin instead choosing to "focus on study" (read get on the piss and hook up)
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July 23rd, 2018, 8:40 am #13

owneroperator wrote:
nijaco wrote: It should also have a knock on effect to the State League 18s sides too, as long as players & parents can shed their egos to concentrate on playing time, which is much more important anyway than the badge on the shirt!!
will guess there will be the same issue as this year with depth in the 18s falling away quickly as the 16 year olds pull the pin instead choosing to "focus on study" (read get on the piss and hook up)
speaking to a few 16,s of late and most will retire if they do not get into a  NPL SQUAD , they would rather be a NPL benchwarmer than get game time in DIV 1 OR 2 
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July 23rd, 2018, 11:20 am #14

frenc11 wrote:
owneroperator wrote:
nijaco wrote: It should also have a knock on effect to the State League 18s sides too, as long as players & parents can shed their egos to concentrate on playing time, which is much more important anyway than the badge on the shirt!!
will guess there will be the same issue as this year with depth in the 18s falling away quickly as the 16 year olds pull the pin instead choosing to "focus on study" (read get on the piss and hook up)
speaking to a few 16,s of late and most will retire if they do not get into a  NPL SQUAD , they would rather be a NPL benchwarmer than get game time in DIV 1 OR 2 
And there in lies the problem! Such a shame, as they would more likely get in to an NPL 20s and Senior squad down the track if they could only give State League a proper go. 
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July 23rd, 2018, 2:27 pm #15

nijaco wrote:
frenc11 wrote:
owneroperator wrote:

will guess there will be the same issue as this year with depth in the 18s falling away quickly as the 16 year olds pull the pin instead choosing to "focus on study" (read get on the piss and hook up)
speaking to a few 16,s of late and most will retire if they do not get into a  NPL SQUAD , they would rather be a NPL benchwarmer than get game time in DIV 1 OR 2 
And there in lies the problem! Such a shame, as they would more likely get in to an NPL 20s and Senior squad down the track if they could only give State League a proper go. 
plenty of talented kids will retire , because they will wont get into NPL ,BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OVERLOOKED FOR A SPONSORS KID OR COMMITTEE MANS KID , who are useless but connected to a 
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July 24th, 2018, 2:42 am #16

frenc11 wrote:
nijaco wrote:
frenc11 wrote:

speaking to a few 16,s of late and most will retire if they do not get into a  NPL SQUAD , they would rather be a NPL benchwarmer than get game time in DIV 1 OR 2 
And there in lies the problem! Such a shame, as they would more likely get in to an NPL 20s and Senior squad down the track if they could only give State League a proper go. 
plenty of talented kids will retire , because they will wont get into NPL ,BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OVERLOOKED FOR A SPONSORS KID OR COMMITTEE MANS KID , who are useless but connected to a 
club
Peoples shouldn’t overlook the connection between FFAFWNPLWA clubs and the school teachers from the various “football schools”.....like it or not these guys are acting as scouts for clubs and agents for a lot  of their student charges , leaving non football school students unsupported and limiting their opertunities.

Shouldn’t be that a superior 16 is advised to play SL1 18s......the superior player should Be the one retained...

At FFAFWNPLWA level ........Limited opertunities + 1000k rates+overt displays of favouritism= high dropout rates....
Where they end up?.......well yeh generally after the treatment and what they witness leaves them fed up with the whole pallava.

Again......good enough old enough is bullshit in this country.....its lip service.....it’s just jargon!
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July 24th, 2018, 3:00 pm #17

Mull wrote:


Again......good enough old enough is bullshit in this country.....its lip service.....it’s just jargon!
Hey Mull, I agree with plenty of your sentiments but this last sentence probably applies to all countries around the world.....very rare to see young talent get a go in any league unless they are exceptional. Sad fact of the football churn factory worldwide.
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July 25th, 2018, 3:01 am #18

goodofthagame wrote:
Mull wrote:


Again......good enough old enough is bullshit in this country.....its lip service.....it’s just jargon!
Hey Mull, I agree with plenty of your sentiments but this last sentence probably applies to all countries around the world.....very rare to see young talent get a go in any league unless they are exceptional. Sad fact of the football churn factory worldwide.
Nice to hear from you mr Evans,and it’s nice to see your boy consistently featuring in the highlights....very instinctive and knows were the goals are....can’t teach that,ya born with it....certainly I like to watch him play...

I digress.....

Other countries have systems and pathways to map progression...the whole time not limiting ANYONES CHANCE FOR OPERTUNITIES.
Noone will convince me  that the FFAFWNPLWA clubs are academies akin to even a 3rd world country.

We don’t have that.....besides aleague academy youth sides.

Hell ....we have a governing body who haven’t the desire to even enter data collected by clubs....so as to display form....


The local FFANPLWA scene is far from serving as a pathway to first team football.....and quite honestly I’m not sure they even want it set up for a pathway.
It is for the most part a recycled players league......
Which ultimately hinders the progression of and retention of local products......

It happens all the way through the FFAFWNPLWA age groups.....in any one Squad you have 11-16 players who are there thru association with someone/something.....it’s always the elephant in the room.
For some of those it might be the first year at the club but they still find a spot(surprise surprise)....but it only leaves 5 or so playing spots left over for the non connected and for those who deserve to Be there on their own merit.

Any youngster lucky enough to be afforded opertunity ....(representative footy outside of the ffafwpg).....and /or being fast tracked......playing senior or first team ffanfwnplwa IS DOIN SO THROUGH ASSOCIATION.......just scratch the surface,you will see..........connected somehow to the footy landscape.
Ie...father/son.......club hierarchy......thru a conflict of interest.....etc etc.
This is one of the reasons outside of costs and coaching inept as to why the premier league through the age groups is of a poor standard.....


For this reason I have the utmost respect for the FEW players who can Make it to top flight on their own without the use of cronyism and forge good careers...these players will always appreciate their lot in this great game.And will be held in higher regard when their careers come to an end.......Considering the era in which they came from.

Sorry I digressed again......

Back to your point......why do they use the well tried line “good enough old enough”

Don’t they mean “if the cronyism is enough your old enough”

All the best.
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