rarity in datejust dials??

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rarity in datejust dials??

Joined: November 2nd, 2005, 8:46 pm

September 27th, 2011, 6:23 am #1

how rare is the blue buckly dial with white painted roman numerals??

and i assume its only rare with the original white hands??

regards
christian
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

September 27th, 2011, 2:46 pm #2

as I have one as well, and I bought it a few years back from a seller who had like 10 of them for sale...
If you have a blue 1601 piepan version, that one is rarer...
best,
Robbe
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Joined: May 28th, 2007, 5:43 pm

September 27th, 2011, 3:40 pm #3

My watchmaker bought an old retired on premise guy's inventory about 12 years ago. The man had worked for various Rolex dealers locally on premise for decades. This was during the 70's and early 80's when dial swaps were common here in the largest Rolex market in the world at that time...Texas.

There were over 400 new and used dials in the lot. Many were simply take offs from new watches that had had dial swaps done for customers.

Out of probably 300 datejust dials...only 2 Buckley's in white with black were there.

No other shades of Buckley were in that lot.

The blue Buckley with white figures and white hands...IS rare.

Black with white...also and then there is the champagne which is less common than the white.

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Joined: March 4th, 2005, 6:36 pm

September 27th, 2011, 3:43 pm #4

how rare is the blue buckly dial with white painted roman numerals??

and i assume its only rare with the original white hands??

regards
christian
...I possess a similar blue dial with white roman fig. with white hands, (very imp. to have), tritium markers,(not pie pan), later model (movt. 3035)
I show it to a reputed dealer in USA this May, & I was offered USD 500 for the dail with hands.
Would one call it rare!!!
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Joined: July 25th, 2010, 6:16 am

September 27th, 2011, 3:52 pm #5

as I have one as well, and I bought it a few years back from a seller who had like 10 of them for sale...
If you have a blue 1601 piepan version, that one is rarer...
best,
Robbe
with a blue 1601 Piepan? It has a black dial with gilt print, with rose gold bezel, crown and hands in the fashion of Au/SS models. I have no clue; just asking a question.



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Joined: January 17th, 2006, 5:05 pm

September 27th, 2011, 5:59 pm #6

My watchmaker bought an old retired on premise guy's inventory about 12 years ago. The man had worked for various Rolex dealers locally on premise for decades. This was during the 70's and early 80's when dial swaps were common here in the largest Rolex market in the world at that time...Texas.

There were over 400 new and used dials in the lot. Many were simply take offs from new watches that had had dial swaps done for customers.

Out of probably 300 datejust dials...only 2 Buckley's in white with black were there.

No other shades of Buckley were in that lot.

The blue Buckley with white figures and white hands...IS rare.

Black with white...also and then there is the champagne which is less common than the white.
I have one datejust and have been looking for another at shows and on the street, but not much luck.
I even had a white day date w/white coronet and black hands in inventory on a white gold head, but blue is a tough one.
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Joined: January 17th, 2006, 5:05 pm

September 27th, 2011, 6:00 pm #7

...I possess a similar blue dial with white roman fig. with white hands, (very imp. to have), tritium markers,(not pie pan), later model (movt. 3035)
I show it to a reputed dealer in USA this May, & I was offered USD 500 for the dail with hands.
Would one call it rare!!!


I would buy dial and hand sets in blue w/white for $500 all day long...
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

September 27th, 2011, 6:33 pm #8

I have one datejust and have been looking for another at shows and on the street, but not much luck.
I even had a white day date w/white coronet and black hands in inventory on a white gold head, but blue is a tough one.
but i do know that for example in Grmany the buckley dial is more common. Most are white with black however.
And I was surprised to hear that a dial plus hands in blue white is worth that much already.
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

September 27th, 2011, 6:35 pm #9

with a blue 1601 Piepan? It has a black dial with gilt print, with rose gold bezel, crown and hands in the fashion of Au/SS models. I have no clue; just asking a question.


the gilt prints are sought after, even on datejusts...
Is it a pink gold print, or yellow?
best,
Robbe
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Joined: July 8th, 2005, 8:30 pm

September 27th, 2011, 9:34 pm #10

but i do know that for example in Grmany the buckley dial is more common. Most are white with black however.
And I was surprised to hear that a dial plus hands in blue white is worth that much already.
on C24, only a handful have the 'buckley' dials. Most of 'm white, a few in champagne, none in other colours - that I've seen.

most of them seem to be from europe;
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-1 ... 826896.htm
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-3 ... 804894.htm
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-v ... 796223.htm
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-3 ... 750114.htm
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-r ... 732648.htm
champagne
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/oyster-per ... 828716.htm


few from the US
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-w ... 848313.htm
champagne
http://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/datejust-m ... 786462.htm

while 'rare' might be somewhat subjective, they do seem rather uncommon, especially in any colour other than white. Matching hands are a must IMHO.

antiquorum for example only sold a few.. but then again, they're 'just' datejusts

http://www.google.nl/search?q=datejust+ ... 08&bih=695 (in this link one mens, one ladies)

a pic from my archives (edit to spice up this post full of links)
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