need help for this 5517

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need help for this 5517

Joined: October 8th, 2011, 3:15 pm

November 19th, 2011, 4:17 pm #1

is this really a 5517?? can any military watch expert can tell??
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Joined: August 14th, 2003, 3:20 pm

November 19th, 2011, 4:45 pm #2

Is there any difference between a military sub and a regular sub beyond the "T" on the dial? If not, is it really worth the mark up in the price? Now if it had a special history, such as the watch in "Pulp Fiction" had...then it might be worth a few dollars more.

John Ireland
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Joined: October 8th, 2011, 3:15 pm

November 19th, 2011, 4:53 pm #3

but any definite comment about this specific watch???
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Joined: January 17th, 2011, 5:43 am

November 19th, 2011, 5:01 pm #4

is this really a 5517?? can any military watch expert can tell??
But I am not very well versed in these watches.. I'm sure others know much, much more...
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Joined: October 8th, 2011, 3:15 pm

November 19th, 2011, 5:04 pm #5

i know the hand is not matched....but i also heard some said this is a 5513 dial with omega hand, is that right??? any more expert here at VRF??
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Joined: December 14th, 2006, 10:46 pm

November 19th, 2011, 5:10 pm #6

Is there any difference between a military sub and a regular sub beyond the "T" on the dial? If not, is it really worth the mark up in the price? Now if it had a special history, such as the watch in "Pulp Fiction" had...then it might be worth a few dollars more.

John Ireland
or just kidding??

Cheers

AZ
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Joined: August 26th, 2003, 12:30 pm

November 19th, 2011, 5:26 pm #7

is this really a 5517?? can any military watch expert can tell??
1) the insert looks fake ( the number "50" seems to be without serifs and the number "30" without the correct shape )
2) also the hour and the minute hands concern me
3) the lugs look "too big" ( but this could depends on the picture )
besides this ... without a clean picture of the back, of the backinside and of the lugs without strap .. it's difficult to say something more.
( edit for typo )
Last edited by marci52 on November 19th, 2011, 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Joined: August 26th, 2003, 12:30 pm

November 19th, 2011, 5:55 pm #8

the "improvment" is not so smart....
the dial might be correct :
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Joined: January 17th, 2011, 5:43 am

November 19th, 2011, 6:35 pm #9

I noticed the spacing between oyster and perpetual is strange. the "p" in perpetual is lined up directly under the L in Rolex. Is this a 5517 variation? I've seen images of 5517 dials that the "R" in oyster ends under the middle of the of the "o" in Rolex, but the "P" in perpetual is positioned before the L in Rolex. Is the above version correct as well?

Sorry if this is silly, I do not have any experience handling these watches.

Glenn
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Joined: February 17th, 2005, 10:43 am

November 19th, 2011, 7:01 pm #10

is this really a 5517?? can any military watch expert can tell??
the hands do look like Omega hands to me. There is a school of thought that holds that Rolex did use this 'long tailed' seconds hand, and I've had one of these serviced by Rolex UK in the past without comment.

But really, these are not the kind of watches to be assessing from a single pic, or even a pile of pics to be honest. Get it to an expert, or buy from an expert or someone who will stand behind the watch.

Regards,
Martyn.
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