Interesting Rolex 16030 diamond dial variant

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Interesting Rolex 16030 diamond dial variant

Joined: March 7th, 2006, 8:04 pm

November 18th, 2017, 6:44 pm #1

Hello-
We are all always interested in Rolex variant pieces. I picked this up last year and have always wondered how this variant occured. Note the diamond dial. Its a rare blue (most of these that you see are vignette instead) and the crown is yellow gold and the hands are yellow gold but note the diamond settings -- they are white gold! I am entertaining any theories as to how this occurred -- mine is that, like the early sapphire datejusts that had open 6 and 9 datewheels, I am thinking that when this dial was made, all Rolex had was white gold settings they use in the 16014 and since the blue is light, they figured it looked OK and went ahead. Regardless, I think its pretty.

Let me know what you all think!

Jason



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Joined: March 7th, 2006, 8:04 pm

November 18th, 2017, 7:11 pm #2

Oops. this is a 16013. How dumb of me!
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Robbe1675
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

November 24th, 2017, 7:59 am #3

Hello-
We are all always interested in Rolex variant pieces. I picked this up last year and have always wondered how this variant occured. Note the diamond dial. Its a rare blue (most of these that you see are vignette instead) and the crown is yellow gold and the hands are yellow gold but note the diamond settings -- they are white gold! I am entertaining any theories as to how this occurred -- mine is that, like the early sapphire datejusts that had open 6 and 9 datewheels, I am thinking that when this dial was made, all Rolex had was white gold settings they use in the 16014 and since the blue is light, they figured it looked OK and went ahead. Regardless, I think its pretty.

Let me know what you all think!

Jason



as diamond settings in white also look better (opinion). Remember the old 1803 diamond bezels which were in white as well.
So it is not unlikely the old settings were used up first, as they were not a shame to see at all.
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Joined: November 28th, 2010, 11:43 am

November 25th, 2017, 5:39 pm #4

Hello-
We are all always interested in Rolex variant pieces. I picked this up last year and have always wondered how this variant occured. Note the diamond dial. Its a rare blue (most of these that you see are vignette instead) and the crown is yellow gold and the hands are yellow gold but note the diamond settings -- they are white gold! I am entertaining any theories as to how this occurred -- mine is that, like the early sapphire datejusts that had open 6 and 9 datewheels, I am thinking that when this dial was made, all Rolex had was white gold settings they use in the 16014 and since the blue is light, they figured it looked OK and went ahead. Regardless, I think its pretty.

Let me know what you all think!

Jason



Someone just took a 16014 dial and mounted it. Swapping a dial is literally a 10 minute job for a qualified watchmaker with the right tools, so thinking it left the factory like this is a bit naive/wishful thinking. It's just a franken, sorry.

Nice looking though.
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Joined: March 7th, 2006, 8:04 pm

November 25th, 2017, 7:29 pm #5

Ia m sorry. I am not naïve or am wishful thinking. I guess you didn't read correctly. The crown on the dial is in yellow gold. The hands are yellow gold. Someone could have switched the hands, of course, but a 16014 would not have originally come with a yellow gold crown. So, I think your explanation is respectfully wrong as well.

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Joined: November 28th, 2010, 11:43 am

November 25th, 2017, 7:35 pm #6

Ah my mistake, thought you meant the winding crown.

White gold can yellow a bit with time and oxidisation. Also it's not that difficult to replace it from another dial, would have to see the backside of the dial to be sure if it was modded


Either way, no reason to believe it came from Rolex like that imo, though not impossible of course.
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janiceandfred
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Joined: August 2nd, 2007, 1:28 pm

November 28th, 2017, 9:34 am #7

Hello-
We are all always interested in Rolex variant pieces. I picked this up last year and have always wondered how this variant occured. Note the diamond dial. Its a rare blue (most of these that you see are vignette instead) and the crown is yellow gold and the hands are yellow gold but note the diamond settings -- they are white gold! I am entertaining any theories as to how this occurred -- mine is that, like the early sapphire datejusts that had open 6 and 9 datewheels, I am thinking that when this dial was made, all Rolex had was white gold settings they use in the 16014 and since the blue is light, they figured it looked OK and went ahead. Regardless, I think its pretty.

Let me know what you all think!

Jason



however given the color of the script and markers which would not be normally found in a two toned datejust, the watch seems more likely to have had that dial installed at a later date than when it left the factory.
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