I really love how freely many people throw around their "knowledge"

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I really love how freely many people throw around their "knowledge"

Joined: June 16th, 2008, 11:21 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 12:50 am #1

or actually their lack there-of..
I too am just as guilty of sometimes jumping the gun on my opinion's..but at least I do let people know that they are just MY opinion's and that the only difinitive source for much of the Rolex enigma is Rolex itself..
recently I sold a friend of mine in Germany a lot of some original Domed 21's that have been getting dusty on my shelf..so I made hima deal and away they went..
Well these particular 21's,which mind you where still wrapped firmly in their ORIGINAL ROLEX PAPER STOCK...AND DATED FROM THE EARLY SEVENTIES,
differed slightly from his original crystal in the slope of the dome (which if some of you "experts" would do some research,you would in fact find there are 3 dome varients that I have uncovered..all from the correct era and all 100%...no..1000% original!),and his un-named "expert" friend notified him that these crystals where fake aftermarkets!!...lol..INDEED!..I geuss the fakers are really advanced these days!..they even know how to take early Rolex tube paper,which has a few unmistakeable attributes,and they expertly unroll this brittle paper and miraculously re-wrapp it..UNBROKEN!!..LOL..???
and to top it off,they somehow know how to add layers and layers of dust,they age the white end-covers that are sealed inside and then somehow sneak these new fake crystals deep into an unsuspecting old Rolex watchmakers stash!!..they really are incredible these days!..come on guys..use your noodle for more than a hat rest please..
So now I have to once again state the obvious to all who read these boards and take anything posted as fact that indeed,NOBODY has all the information on every Rolex part and authenticity..and even those who scream the loudest that THEY have the difinitive answer are in truth only screaming that they DO NOT know the True nature of this hobby..he who thinks he has all the answers is selling out the hobby way too short as i find oddities,peculiarity's,abnormalities and a few things that where just straight up bizarre come out of switzerland in the 60's,70's and 80's!

Steven T. Mulholland
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Joined: February 16th, 2008, 9:16 am

August 3rd, 2011, 1:34 am #2

And yes, I remembered seeing that "unpolished" & "untouched" rolled paper with date stamp on it when you posted on the market. But I am no "vintage" paper roll expert

Cheers buddy

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Joined: June 16th, 2008, 11:21 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 2:40 am #3



Steven T. Mulholland
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Joined: November 3rd, 2009, 8:57 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 3:50 am #4

and now know everything.
"The collector can always give a better advise than a dealer... "
LMAO
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Joined: August 8th, 2008, 12:55 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 5:39 am #5

or actually their lack there-of..
I too am just as guilty of sometimes jumping the gun on my opinion's..but at least I do let people know that they are just MY opinion's and that the only difinitive source for much of the Rolex enigma is Rolex itself..
recently I sold a friend of mine in Germany a lot of some original Domed 21's that have been getting dusty on my shelf..so I made hima deal and away they went..
Well these particular 21's,which mind you where still wrapped firmly in their ORIGINAL ROLEX PAPER STOCK...AND DATED FROM THE EARLY SEVENTIES,
differed slightly from his original crystal in the slope of the dome (which if some of you "experts" would do some research,you would in fact find there are 3 dome varients that I have uncovered..all from the correct era and all 100%...no..1000% original!),and his un-named "expert" friend notified him that these crystals where fake aftermarkets!!...lol..INDEED!..I geuss the fakers are really advanced these days!..they even know how to take early Rolex tube paper,which has a few unmistakeable attributes,and they expertly unroll this brittle paper and miraculously re-wrapp it..UNBROKEN!!..LOL..???
and to top it off,they somehow know how to add layers and layers of dust,they age the white end-covers that are sealed inside and then somehow sneak these new fake crystals deep into an unsuspecting old Rolex watchmakers stash!!..they really are incredible these days!..come on guys..use your noodle for more than a hat rest please..
So now I have to once again state the obvious to all who read these boards and take anything posted as fact that indeed,NOBODY has all the information on every Rolex part and authenticity..and even those who scream the loudest that THEY have the difinitive answer are in truth only screaming that they DO NOT know the True nature of this hobby..he who thinks he has all the answers is selling out the hobby way too short as i find oddities,peculiarity's,abnormalities and a few things that where just straight up bizarre come out of switzerland in the 60's,70's and 80's!

Steven T. Mulholland
The left tropic is yours and the right one is the original from my PN6239. Best regards Roy

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August 3rd, 2011, 5:49 am #6

your plexi was carved at..
Steven T. Mulholland
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Joined: August 8th, 2008, 12:55 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 5:58 am #7

why looks different to the original tropic from my old Daytona please ?
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Joined: June 16th, 2008, 11:21 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 6:24 am #8

which I thought was very odd,but thought there was an outside chance that a tube was mislabled by nicholas,unlikey as it seems..lol..
So I send out the last of my personal tube and I also tested them each out on a 6239 exactly like you asked me to do..however these where shaped exactly as the last batch..why would you change the story on the second time?
am I missing something here?

Steven T. Mulholland
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August 3rd, 2011, 6:37 am #9

I pay custom and shipping back to you
The second package are this tropics on the left side.
Explain me please why looks different to the original old ones ?

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August 3rd, 2011, 6:45 am #10

wrong tropics the first time or this time?
all I am saying Roy is that if these didnt have the dome you where looking for then why on earth would you have me send out my last rolled batch?
now I can not even sell them as they are no longer wrapped in their paper and have been all over the planet..
it would be different if we where talking about 2 or 3 crystals even..but now it totals 20 crystals in all which comes to apprx. 6.000$ out of my pocket..
you said the first time that they dont fit..now this time you said they where fakes..is this some kind of language trouble we are having?

Steven T. Mulholland
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