Can a 63'-64' watch have a I.66 caseback ?

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Can a 63'-64' watch have a I.66 caseback ?

Joined: March 23rd, 2008, 10:31 pm

January 6th, 2012, 12:08 pm #1

Hi Gents,

I am about to get a 5513 Gilt PCG (serial 99x xxx).
The only point which is worrying me is mentionned in the title.

Can it be possible or I have to admit it is definitely a wrong caseback?

Regards,

Olivier
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

January 6th, 2012, 12:52 pm #2

It can have a back which is a year or so apart, earlier or later, but not this much off.
Especially on a 63 watch with pcg it is important to have a period case back.
best,
Robbe
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Joined: January 12th, 2010, 12:54 pm

January 6th, 2012, 2:51 pm #3

Hi Gents,

I am about to get a 5513 Gilt PCG (serial 99x xxx).
The only point which is worrying me is mentionned in the title.

Can it be possible or I have to admit it is definitely a wrong caseback?

Regards,

Olivier
Back to the future :-))
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Joined: October 13th, 2003, 5:24 pm

January 6th, 2012, 4:02 pm #4

Hi Gents,

I am about to get a 5513 Gilt PCG (serial 99x xxx).
The only point which is worrying me is mentionned in the title.

Can it be possible or I have to admit it is definitely a wrong caseback?

Regards,

Olivier
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Joined: January 28th, 2005, 9:45 am

January 6th, 2012, 6:01 pm #5

Hi Gents,

I am about to get a 5513 Gilt PCG (serial 99x xxx).
The only point which is worrying me is mentionned in the title.

Can it be possible or I have to admit it is definitely a wrong caseback?

Regards,

Olivier
( produced at the end of 1963 ) a back with a "63" or even a "64" punch would be more consistent to the time of case production.
in any case if you have already bought the watch you can well keep the "66" back untill you find a correct one .. something hard but not impossible to find.
personally I would keep the watch as is at the moment : it's not a big problem as the original back was almost certainly without the case number of the watch engraved inside ..
so with a 2 years later back you don't miss any particular feature.
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Joined: March 23rd, 2008, 10:31 pm

January 6th, 2012, 6:15 pm #6

...still buy it ?
I have not paid for it yet.

Robbe says No, Marcello yes.
I am not that expert in pre-70' Rolexes so I do not really know what to do, taking in consideration that:
*dial/hands are really nice
*case is strong
*7206 is missing (and as a tired 9315 on it)
*case back is not matching
*price is in the European market average (let's say between 10 and 13k)
*I am not in a hurry but am quite difficult in my choices and have not seen such nice dial.

Hard time for me (and wish everybody to have such life troubles. We are somehow lucky on this earth, specially when like yesterday evening you watch a Tsunami document from inside and all the sadness it brought up).

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Joined: December 27th, 2006, 10:30 am

January 6th, 2012, 7:10 pm #7

for me it depends on:

quality of the dial and is it correct to the ser.nr? matching hands?
how rare is the dial?
quality of the case?
is everything else correct (bezel, mvmt.)?

and last but not least, if you can say yes to all the above mentioned points, does the price reflect the fact, that the back is not period correct?

best
dieter
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Joined: March 23rd, 2008, 10:31 pm

January 6th, 2012, 8:33 pm #8

Here are my answers to your questions:
*Dial and hands are in excellent condition, matching and radium (see few threads below). Serial # is ok for the period and clearly visible
*It seems that there are more underline dials than ones w/o underline for the period. So quite rare.
*Case is in good shape with strong PCG, even though riveted 7206 is missing
*Bezel is ok and 1520 movement as well. Pearl is luminova

So I can say yes to your points. Price is ok, not too high (below 12k) in comparison with the other 5513 Gilt PCG we can find on the market.

Best regards,

Olivier
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Joined: April 21st, 2007, 10:15 am

January 6th, 2012, 8:55 pm #9

...still buy it ?
I have not paid for it yet.

Robbe says No, Marcello yes.
I am not that expert in pre-70' Rolexes so I do not really know what to do, taking in consideration that:
*dial/hands are really nice
*case is strong
*7206 is missing (and as a tired 9315 on it)
*case back is not matching
*price is in the European market average (let's say between 10 and 13k)
*I am not in a hurry but am quite difficult in my choices and have not seen such nice dial.

Hard time for me (and wish everybody to have such life troubles. We are somehow lucky on this earth, specially when like yesterday evening you watch a Tsunami document from inside and all the sadness it brought up).
just that it would be something that some collectors do not like to see, and that hurts the value.
But not that much, that the watch is now not worth collecting. It is just that it is obvious that a part of the watch was replaced with a newer part, and that is never adding value...
I agree with Marcello that it is a case of finding the right back, and then selling the present one. I would think that the difference in value of the backs, when found, can be 500-1000 euro depending on condition.
best,
Robbe
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Joined: March 23rd, 2008, 10:31 pm

January 6th, 2012, 9:52 pm #10

Thank you for the advices! Let's see tomorrow what I decide.
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