Beware of the latest Buzzword... Unpolished!

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Beware of the latest Buzzword... Unpolished!

Joined: January 23rd, 2005, 9:30 pm

August 2nd, 2011, 4:56 pm #1

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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August 2nd, 2011, 5:05 pm #2

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August 2nd, 2011, 5:27 pm #3

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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who seem to mean "a watch that has not been recently serviced or touched-up" (i.e. it has plenty of scratches & dings on it).

IMHO, even RSC cannot recreate the original flat sides and beveled edges of a truly unpolished/unrefinished/untouched case.

Below are a few examples of such "virgins" from my collection:






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Joined: November 14th, 2010, 5:21 pm

August 2nd, 2011, 5:32 pm #4

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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Now, I am a real bastard when asking about case condition
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Joined: January 28th, 2005, 3:12 pm

August 2nd, 2011, 6:45 pm #5

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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Maybe it is overkill but VRF being a premier vintage Rolex site just might be able to pull one off.
It would deter sellers from overstatements such as you have mentioned.
Could be a can of worms but a carefully documented archive would make a great resource.
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August 2nd, 2011, 6:57 pm #6

...on Tom's mood.

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August 2nd, 2011, 8:42 pm #7

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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Agreed ! Thumbs Up. NT
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Joined: November 13th, 2008, 11:08 am

August 2nd, 2011, 9:50 pm #8

Maybe it is overkill but VRF being a premier vintage Rolex site just might be able to pull one off.
It would deter sellers from overstatements such as you have mentioned.
Could be a can of worms but a carefully documented archive would make a great resource.
But to establish a distinction between what is and what is not unpolished is going to be tough leading to passionate debates. Many collectors honestly think they own unpolished examples but in fact theirs are fat to really fat but not unpolished.

True unpolished examples tend to be really rare nowadays except for the modern models just purchased at the AD next door
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Joined: January 16th, 2005, 4:06 pm

August 2nd, 2011, 11:13 pm #9

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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This would be AMAZING to see!!!!!!!!
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Joined: May 2nd, 2010, 9:11 pm

August 3rd, 2011, 12:39 am #10

An unpolished Rolex case is a rare thing indeed.
I guess 1 in a 100 could qualify.

I too love an unpolished case and if im buying a datejust or a daytona i insist on it or just a single factory polish.

Bevelled edge sports watches however are rarely seen unpolished.
If they are they are usually due a recut to flatten the case and return it to an original shape.

Occasionly we see a great great condition unpolished sports case that has hardly been used and could enter our collections as is. Very occasionly.

Most watches described as unpolished have been polished once or even twice but because the case shape remains and the bevelled edges look neat sellers describe them as unpolished and buyers convince themselves its true.

When it comes to working watches you can near enough forget unpolished. Military Rolex and Comex subs and seadwellers (Plastic) have all been polished while at geneva and most have had a second and third polish by an approved Rolex watchmaker but without factory machines. Its an honest part of their history and most civi watches too.

In 20 years i have only once claimed a vintage case to be unpolished when selling.



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Thank you Roger. Agree..it needed to be said
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