800-hp V10 to be in the 2013 Viper...Gear head post,,

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800-hp V10 to be in the 2013 Viper...Gear head post,,

Joined: October 13th, 2003, 5:24 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 5:03 pm #1

I read that the next-generation 2013 Dodge Viper comes rumbling in at 800 hp, all 8.7 liters of it. This motor in the picture below will be in the new Viper, but with direct injection and cylinder shut down at idle for fuel mileage. Honestly, do we need 800 HP in a car? Yes in my book.

The problem now is, 500 to 600 HP cars are now commonplace.. ):

Now to see what the Vette ZR 1 is up too? Last I read was 700 HP..

Mopar announces 800-hp V10 crate engine at SEMA

http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/mopar ... e-at-sema/



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Joined: November 14th, 2010, 5:21 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 5:10 pm #2

just kidding
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Joined: April 10th, 2008, 11:35 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 5:42 pm #3

I read that the next-generation 2013 Dodge Viper comes rumbling in at 800 hp, all 8.7 liters of it. This motor in the picture below will be in the new Viper, but with direct injection and cylinder shut down at idle for fuel mileage. Honestly, do we need 800 HP in a car? Yes in my book.

The problem now is, 500 to 600 HP cars are now commonplace.. ):

Now to see what the Vette ZR 1 is up too? Last I read was 700 HP..

Mopar announces 800-hp V10 crate engine at SEMA

http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/mopar ... e-at-sema/



http://rolexnessreviews.blogspot.com/
used to be a serious gearhead back in the late 60s/70s. back in 2004 i bought a VW R32 AWD, 6 spd tranny, with a 3.2L V6, running 250HP, but tons of torque, and pushing the same weight as a corvette, actually 100 lbs heavier at 3400 lbs.

1/4 mile times in low 11 seconds. Didn't realize how well it performed till i was watching a speed show and they were comparing restored muscle cars from the 60s (Olds 442, GTOs, Chev 396) and with all the stock ie factory tricked out options, they were turning in the low 11 seconds

800hp is getting dangerous, but gratefully it'll be expensive so limited to folks with some age and hopefully maturity.

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Joined: October 13th, 2003, 5:24 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 6:05 pm #4

They suggest you never turn off the launch and stability control. That way the on board computer can bring in the car with ABS and wheel rotation control.
The New Viper will weigh in at (3,300 to 3400) curb lbs with 800 hp..that is a "power to weight ratio" of 4.25..

The Bugatti Veyron features an 8.0 litre, quad-turbo charged, W 16 at 1,001 HP and curb weight at (4262 lb). Power to weight ratio is about 3.86..

Craze numbers on these cars..But the lighter Viper with a simple super charger and a given start at 800 hp will be a nightmare on the street at around 1200 plus hp.

God save us..lol..

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Joined: October 18th, 2009, 12:39 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 10:15 pm #5

used to be a serious gearhead back in the late 60s/70s. back in 2004 i bought a VW R32 AWD, 6 spd tranny, with a 3.2L V6, running 250HP, but tons of torque, and pushing the same weight as a corvette, actually 100 lbs heavier at 3400 lbs.

1/4 mile times in low 11 seconds. Didn't realize how well it performed till i was watching a speed show and they were comparing restored muscle cars from the 60s (Olds 442, GTOs, Chev 396) and with all the stock ie factory tricked out options, they were turning in the low 11 seconds

800hp is getting dangerous, but gratefully it'll be expensive so limited to folks with some age and hopefully maturity.
My XK Jaguar was the fastest production car in the world.

210 bhp ..... what a rocket ship .

They've come a long way since 1955 LOL
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Joined: December 28th, 2008, 8:53 am

February 3rd, 2012, 10:16 pm #6

used to be a serious gearhead back in the late 60s/70s. back in 2004 i bought a VW R32 AWD, 6 spd tranny, with a 3.2L V6, running 250HP, but tons of torque, and pushing the same weight as a corvette, actually 100 lbs heavier at 3400 lbs.

1/4 mile times in low 11 seconds. Didn't realize how well it performed till i was watching a speed show and they were comparing restored muscle cars from the 60s (Olds 442, GTOs, Chev 396) and with all the stock ie factory tricked out options, they were turning in the low 11 seconds

800hp is getting dangerous, but gratefully it'll be expensive so limited to folks with some age and hopefully maturity.
You are not saying a R32 runs low 11 second quarters are you? Maybe low 13s
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Joined: April 10th, 2008, 11:35 pm

February 4th, 2012, 2:26 am #7

that AWD, once you dialed in launch technique, gave an advantage coming off the line. Part of the technology was the variable vane intake manifold - would shorten or lengthen the path, depending on rpm and torque desired. 2nd, what also helped was the six spd tranny

when folks first took em to the track, they were seeing low 12 seconds, till they got that launch technique dialed down - pretty simple actually, hold 4500 - 5000 rpm and drop the clutch.

Then we learned how to dump 200 lbs from the car's weight. When HPA released their turbo kits, that was when they really took off. Base line kit ran $9k but took hp to 384 & 331 ft lbs torque

it was a surprisingly well balanced car, stock but with aftermarket suspension, it only got better. When VW released 5000 of the cars to the world market, they were not going to bring em to the US. When journalists reviewed the car for whatever magazines, they and the public went crazy and VW finally decided to release 5000 or do a production run of 5000 for the US market. They released it in Feb 2004 and by June had sold out, without ever advertising them.

I only got lucky and bought one cause i was looking at the Audi TT roadster, and the R32 was the same engine, drivetrain, floorpan/chassis for $15K less

when i sold mine, it only had 15K on it, but i got what i'd paid for it 5 years earlier.
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Joined: December 28th, 2008, 8:53 am

February 4th, 2012, 3:39 am #8

Not to derail this too bad. I am very familiar with AWD turbo cars and used to work for a tuning outfit that specifically tuned Evos STis and other awd cars. Evos were never bothered at all by R32s. We had a R32 and didnt find it compelling at all. Evos would need 500HP to go low 11s thats without the launch control. at the time HPA was testing/competing their 475HP cars and not coming close to low 11s
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Joined: April 10th, 2008, 11:35 pm

February 4th, 2012, 3:58 am #9

find the threads from 2004/5

difference in the R32 and the Evos's was 4 cylinder and while i don't recall the displacement, it wasn't much over 2 liters, while the R32 had 3.2L, 11.1 compression ratio, and tons of torque
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Joined: October 29th, 2006, 10:37 am

February 4th, 2012, 4:57 am #10

I read that the next-generation 2013 Dodge Viper comes rumbling in at 800 hp, all 8.7 liters of it. This motor in the picture below will be in the new Viper, but with direct injection and cylinder shut down at idle for fuel mileage. Honestly, do we need 800 HP in a car? Yes in my book.

The problem now is, 500 to 600 HP cars are now commonplace.. ):

Now to see what the Vette ZR 1 is up too? Last I read was 700 HP..

Mopar announces 800-hp V10 crate engine at SEMA

http://ca.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/mopar ... e-at-sema/



http://rolexnessreviews.blogspot.com/
Add a couple of water cooled turbo chargers and slip it into a hand-made Bristol Fighter T

and you now have a 1,595KG bespoke little sports car with 1012BHP capable of 270mph (limited to 225mph) to go looking for Vipers in

besties,

Steve

http://www.bristolcars.co.uk/fighter.html







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