Results/findings from Gulf War Restistry Exam

Results/findings from Gulf War Restistry Exam

mtcdave
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01 Aug 2017, 16:16 #1

I had my Gulfwar Registry Exam and there are a couple of lines that i'm not sure what they are, see the below where the bold underlined arrows and comments are located.
The one thing I know for a fact is incorrect is the time in theater. It states that i was there only 30 days, when we were there from Apr 17 until July 15th ish.
But my question is about the last two lines, is this saying that none of what i'm complaining about is service connected? I'm just curious.

CC: Gulf War Registry
HPI: Veteran is a 48 y/o who reports Tinnitus, Cough, body aches, nose bleeds 2
x month, DM and joint Pain noted as possibly related to exposures
in the Gulf war.
Type 2 diabetes mellitus (SCT xxxxxxx)
Benign essential hypertension (SCT xxxxxxx)
Gastroesophageal reflux disease (SCT xxxxxxxx)
divorced
ETOH yes.
occasional
2 kids
PERIOD OF SERVICE: PERSIAN GULF WAR
SERVICE DISCHARGE TYPE(LAST):
SERVICE BRANCH(LAST):
SERVICE ENTRY DATE(LAST):
SERVICE SEPARATION DATE(LAST):
POW STATUS INDICATED?: NO
COMBAT SERVICE INDICATED?: NO
PERSIAN SERVICE INDICATED?: YES
PERSIAN FROM DATE: APR 01, 1991
PERSIAN TO DATE: APR 30, 1991     <----This date is wrong, we were there until Mid July
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINANTS?: YES
DS - Disabilities                               <---What does this mean
Eligibility: NSC VERIFIED                 <---What does this mean



 
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ppierce2
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02 Aug 2017, 00:25 #2

I can answer one: NSC VERIFIED means "Non Service Connected," and they verified your information doing a patient inquiry.
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mtcdave
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02 Aug 2017, 12:43 #3

ppierce2 wrote:
I can answer one: NSC VERIFIED means "Non Service Connected," and they verified your information doing a patient inquiry.
So i guessing its not worth filing a claim for anything i'm complaining about. 
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Kassidyreign
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02 Aug 2017, 12:51 #4

The exam doesn't service connect anything, it's an exam , up to you to submit a claim and at that time it will be decided if the evidence indicates service connection
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DrDave
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06 Aug 2017, 01:05 #5

One thing is certain, the medical exam and this printed sheet do not grant you service connection nor take it away, and they do not approve or disapprove any disabilities. Kassidyreign was exactly right on that point. So I would not be concerned with anything else on this exam, other than the dates. Even those aren't that important here, as long as you get them right in your claim. I might do a personal statement to submit about the Gulf War Exam stating that the doctor listed the To: date incorrectly and providing the correct date again, just to have it on the record that the mistake was made. If you can get any idea of the office designator at the VA for who handled the assignment of that physician to do the exam, I would try to get a copy to them as well, and maybe they could get the doctor to correct the exam in the system.

I don't think any of it is anything to worry about, though, as long as you get something on the record saying there was a mistake on your departure date from theater.

Dr. Dave
SGM, US Army (Ret)
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pgwvet
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08 Aug 2017, 17:07 #6

mtcdave wrote:
I had my Gulfwar Registry Exam and there are a couple of lines that i'm not sure what they are, see the below where the bold underlined arrows and comments are located.
The one thing I know for a fact is incorrect is the time in theater. It states that i was there only 30 days, when we were there from Apr 17 until July 15th ish.
But my question is about the last two lines, is this saying that none of what i'm complaining about is service connected? I'm just curious.

CC: Gulf War Registry
HPI: Veteran is a 48 y/o who reports Tinnitus, Cough, body aches, nose bleeds 2
x month, DM and joint Pain noted as possibly related to exposures
in the Gulf war.
Type 2 diabetes mellitus (SCT xxxxxxx)
Benign essential hypertension (SCT xxxxxxx)
Gastroesophageal reflux disease (SCT xxxxxxxx)
divorced
ETOH yes.
occasional
2 kids
PERIOD OF SERVICE: PERSIAN GULF WAR
SERVICE DISCHARGE TYPE(LAST):
SERVICE BRANCH(LAST):
SERVICE ENTRY DATE(LAST):
SERVICE SEPARATION DATE(LAST):
POW STATUS INDICATED?: NO
COMBAT SERVICE INDICATED?: NO
PERSIAN SERVICE INDICATED?: YES
PERSIAN FROM DATE: APR 01, 1991
PERSIAN TO DATE: APR 30, 1991     <----This date is wrong, we were there until Mid July
ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINANTS?: YES
DS - Disabilities                               <---What does this mean
Eligibility: NSC VERIFIED                 <---What does this mean



 
The war part ended in April and that is why you have one month (April) The Cease Fire Operation was next and it started in April 91 until November 30, 95.

If you have been complaining of the tinnitus for sometime and it shows in your records (going back to about when you got our) and you was in the right MOS you might be able to get it related to your service. It does get harder the longer one waits after the service. 

You did not say you are rated for anything with the VA, if you are you look to be low income or getting a pension; because NSC VERIFIED = 1) not rated not Group 6, high income, OR 2) disabled Not Service Connected might be getting pension or 3) low income Not Service Connected


The Type 2 diabetes will account for many symptoms like your joint pains and is not something one can claim as due as related to exposures in the gulf war. This is even addressed in the laws and 38 CFR 3.317. The same for the Gastroesophageal reflux disease GERD
James A. Bunker
Executive Director
National Gulf War Resource Center
1725 SW Gage Blvd.
2nd Floor #200
Topeka, KS 66604
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mtcdave
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09 Aug 2017, 19:19 #7

When i enrolled, I was Priority Group 6.
Yeah, i was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of years ago. I'm pretty sure it wasn't from GW exposure. Mostly genetics and bad habits. But i've learned the error of my ways and and have it under control.
when i was active duty, i didn't complain about much. Mostly colds and yearly trips to dental. I was an 0311, infantry, and if something was wrong, you would talk to doc, he'd take a look, and if he didn't think you need to go to medical, he'd
give you a handful of motrin and tell you to stay hydrated and you would go on about your business lol. Gotta love ole Doc Buchanan and Doc Garcia. On my exit exam i didn't say anything about the ringing in my ears. I just thought it was normal. And i was
ready to go home. the last couple of years, it's gotten progressively worse. makes it hard to sleep sometimes or focus on my work. We never wore ear protection while we were transported by helo, CH46's. Or even during live fire. As a squad leader,
I needed to be able to hear and see everything around me to lead my squad and give them commands as needed, talk on the radio as needed etc. that's just the way it was back then, and i'm sure it's still the same.
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DrDave
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10 Aug 2017, 06:36 #8

Many of us were the same way - didn't do a lot of sick calls, just manned up and did what we needed to do, took some aspirin or Motrin and carried on. We're paying for it now, though. I did start going to the doc when I was a 1SG, though, because I heard some VA horror stories from a couple of buds who had retired. They told me to go and be sure to get everything documented. I started insisting my troops do that, so I started doing it, too. Glad I did, just wish I'd done it more and better, getting to specialists and making the documentation more clear. During and after the Gulf War, I didn't do much of anything, plus I didn't really get ill until long after I'd retired in 94. That's why the presumptive period has been useful for me, or will be once the VA understands it!

Sorry for going off. I think you should still claim the tinnitus. I've got it and received 10% for it in both ears. I've got it bad like you, disrupting my sleep and stuff. It can be deafening sometimes. They even gave me some hearing aids for my moderate hearing loss that also blast some white noise in my ears to help counteract the tinnitus. Get an appointment with audiology and ask about the tinnitus hearing aid help.

I think you can also easily claim the joint pain and body aches as related to Gulf War exposures. The DM and other stuff maybe not so much. I think you could still claim the hypertension and GERD as service connected, though, if there is any record of high blood pressure readings in your service medical records (SMR) or GERD if you have anything in your SMR about indigestion. You could claim the Diabetes, but it would be a tough one to prove service connection, I think.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Dave
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mtcdave
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10 Aug 2017, 13:56 #9

I recently enrolled, last month. After connecting with some guys from my platoon and company, It triggered alot of memories i've been blocking out all these years for some reason. I was in Operation Provide Comfort, in northern Iraq with the Kurdish. Around the Zacko/Dahuk area. I saw things i wish not to remember. Especially at the hospital. I still see the kids with chemical burns, men and women trying to get a doctor to see their child or loved one. But the look on those kids faces, feeling helpless. And i can't do anything for them. This was at the hospital and the the roadblock/checkpoint going into Zacko. My kids asked what i did during the Gulf War, i told them where i was and what i saw but keep that conversation very short and change the subject to something else. I've got a mental health exam in the next couple of weeks. Before i joined the Marine Corps, hunting was a big part of my life. I'm from south Tx. Deer hunting, turkey hunting, dove hunting, hog hunting. Since i've been out, i don't even want to pickup a gun for whatever reason. I don't even own one. Don't want one. I still love to fish every chance I get. Mostly surf fishing. Loud noises, crowds bother the hell out of me. I've got some buddies from that platoon and company that have moved on in Law Enforcement. That's what i was gonna do when i got out, when i went for the interview for the academy, i just got up and left. I didn't want to do that anymore. I ended up going to college and getting my degree. The software industry has been good to me over the years. But now that i'm older and have time to reflect on things, it's really starting to get to me.
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Bkydtravel
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11 Aug 2017, 18:03 #10

Its Tough to prove even with evidence in your SMR and 3 months after your EOS same with the Hypertension all through your SMR
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pgwvet
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17 Aug 2017, 16:57 #11

DrDave wrote: Many of us were the same way - didn't do a lot of sick calls, just manned up and did what we needed to do, took some aspirin or Motrin and carried on. We're paying for it now, though. I did start going to the doc when I was a 1SG, though, because I heard some VA horror stories from a couple of buds who had retired. They told me to go and be sure to get everything documented. I started insisting my troops do that, so I started doing it, too. Glad I did, just wish I'd done it more and better, getting to specialists and making the documentation more clear. During and after the Gulf War, I didn't do much of anything, plus I didn't really get ill until long after I'd retired in 94. That's why the presumptive period has been useful for me, or will be once the VA understands it!

Sorry for going off. I think you should still claim the tinnitus. I've got it and received 10% for it in both ears. I've got it bad like you, disrupting my sleep and stuff. It can be deafening sometimes. They even gave me some hearing aids for my moderate hearing loss that also blast some white noise in my ears to help counteract the tinnitus. Get an appointment with audiology and ask about the tinnitus hearing aid help.

I think you can also easily claim the joint pain and body aches as related to Gulf War exposures. The DM and other stuff maybe not so much. I think you could still claim the hypertension and GERD as service connected, though, if there is any record of high blood pressure readings in your service medical records (SMR) or GERD if you have anything in your SMR about indigestion. You could claim the Diabetes, but it would be a tough one to prove service connection, I think.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Dave
The VBA will deny a claim for the pain blaming it on the DM.
Some musculoskeletal problems are unique to diabetes. ... people have when diabetes affects their muscles, ligaments, tendons, or joints. ... Evaluating Shoulder Pain: The Latest in Diagnosis and Management, Part 2 ... Diabetes Self-management Education and Support in Type 2 Diabetes: A Joint Position Statement of the at  http://clinical.diabetesjournals.org/content/19/3/136 
James A. Bunker
Executive Director
National Gulf War Resource Center
1725 SW Gage Blvd.
2nd Floor #200
Topeka, KS 66604
Gulf War Illness Guide
http://kansasvets.org
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17 Aug 2017, 17:02 #12

Bkydtravel wrote: Its Tough to prove even with evidence in your SMR and 3 months after your EOS same with the Hypertension all through your SMR
If you have the readings in service and in the three months after that the VA needs, or you are on the medication and the BP is at a given level you can win. Many working the claims do not look at the records to see if you are on the medication. 
James A. Bunker
Executive Director
National Gulf War Resource Center
1725 SW Gage Blvd.
2nd Floor #200
Topeka, KS 66604
Gulf War Illness Guide
http://kansasvets.org
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Bkydtravel
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21 Aug 2017, 06:23 #13

pgwvet wrote:
Bkydtravel wrote: Its Tough to prove even with evidence in your SMR and 3 months after your EOS same with the Hypertension all through your SMR
If you have the readings in service and in the three months after that the VA needs, or you are on the medication and the BP is at a given level you can win. Many working the claims do not look at the records to see if you are on the medication


. with the hypertension I have been perscribed the meds but have alergeric reactions to them have not been able to find one that I could tolerate with out a reaction. and the DM II  I was not notified that I had it I found out years later during a routine blood test. still fighting both of them.
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24 Aug 2017, 21:47 #14

I have Graves Disease. I was denied as non service connected. I have had 1 surgery to remove half of my thyroid and was in "remission for years. Now I have Graves disease again which is unheard of my doctor states. I served Desert Storm and Desert Shield. I don't understand why not service connected.
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05 Sep 2017, 21:28 #15

not much better wrote: I have Graves Disease. I was denied as non service connected. I have had 1 surgery to remove half of my thyroid and was in "remission for years. Now I have Graves disease again which is unheard of my doctor states. I served Desert Storm and Desert Shield. I don't understand why not service connected.
Why would your Graves Disease be related to your service in Operation DS/DS? you would need to show symptoms in your service records to get granted SC.
Graves Disease is a diagnosed illness and is not a presumptive illness to the Gulf War.
James A. Bunker
Executive Director
National Gulf War Resource Center
1725 SW Gage Blvd.
2nd Floor #200
Topeka, KS 66604
Gulf War Illness Guide
http://kansasvets.org
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not much better
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16 Oct 2017, 16:32 #16

pgwvet wrote:
not much better wrote: I have Graves Disease. I was denied as non service connected. I have had 1 surgery to remove half of my thyroid and was in "remission for years. Now I have Graves disease again which is unheard of my doctor states. I served Desert Storm and Desert Shield. I don't understand why not service connected.
Why would your Graves Disease be related to your service in Operation DS/DS? you would need to show symptoms in your service records to get granted SC.
Graves Disease is a diagnosed illness and is not a presumptive illness to the Gulf War.
I had symptoms in 93, but labs and ultrasound were normal. Later I had nodules on thyroid but still normal labs (symptoms) thus no diagnosis. Early 2000's I had one side hyperactive and the other underactive diagnosed with uptake exam. Had surgery to remove the over active side. Back to normal labs with symptoms (fatigue, muscle aches, insommonia). Now I have been diagnosed as of this year with Graves Disease and being treated for heart palpitation). I do understand that it is a diagnosed illness but not sure why it is not service connected since I complained years ago but still went undiagnosed for years.  
I currently still have the muscle aches, insomonia, fatigue. I can't stand to be too hot or cold. I take so much ibuprofen that the physician fussed about the amount I take to deal with the pain. Some days clothes hurt. Direct air hurts my skin. I guess I am just confused on what exactly is causing my symptoms. 
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