Basil Plumley.

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15 Jul 2011, 03:12 #11

Got me Adam. All I know from those who know him is that his WW II experience is off-limits and that he won't talk about it to anyone! Be interesting if someone had access to the rosters and could answer the mystery.
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15 Jul 2011, 03:27 #12

I found this on http://www.wwiihistorycenter.org/usmili ... onnelp.htm
Plumley, Basil - B Battery, 320th Glider Field Artillery Battalion, 82nd Airborne Division   
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15 Jul 2011, 08:52 #13

Wow, that is interesting. So technically he might never have made any "jumps" at all? I wonder what the date of this Roster is, and whether he was transfered at any point? Very interesting.



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15 Jul 2011, 20:59 #14

I have recently been quite interested in Basil Plumley too, and have found it difficult to find anything of substance beyond wikipedia related stuff, or the connection for the Glider unit. But in Plumley's awards, it is recognized that he has five combat jumps by the Master Combat Parachutist Badge with gold star (indicating 5 combat jumps). I wouldn't think he would have been awarded this badge without having made 5 combat jumps... but this is just normal logic and reason, and I have no research or proof to back it up. I would hope that one of the heavy hitter researchers like Mark Bando, or someone else might shed some light on this mystery.



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15 Jul 2011, 21:16 #15

Brandon,



This is why im highly skeptical that he was a member of the 320th GFAB but then.....which sources can be trusted?



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20 Jul 2011, 04:09 #16

Thanks to Paul Clifford giving me his home town (Columbus, GA), I was able to find the telephone number of Basil Plumley. It was a rather strange conversation. I told him I am the secretary/treasurer for the 505 RCT and would like to add him to our Master Roster as he was not on it. He said he did not want to be on the Master Roster. I explained to him that it was not for public distribution, but we just want an accurate accounting of all the soldiers who went through the RCT. There are over 7,800 names on the list. He still did not want to be on it and would not give me the information. I also asked him what company he was in and he said he was in three companies. When I asked him which ones he said he didn't remember. He did give me permission to add him to the Panther mailing list. I also told him our upcoming reunion will be in Columbus, but he said he would not be able to attend.

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"My first night on French soil, I thought of my country.  I thought of the French people and I thought 'I gotta do something...And I did.'"  Otis L. Sampson, E Co.; 505 PIR; 82nd Airborne Division - Comment to me over dinner in Seattle,WA - 2009.
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20 Jul 2011, 05:14 #17

Hey Ellen, did ya tell him that it was a beautiful morning, or something lol.  Ya have to watch "We Were Soldiers..." to get that smartass remark lol.  An interesting guy, all the way around, and still mysterious... 
I suppose he has his reasons, as many of these tough old bastards do.
Thank you, Ellen, for your input.
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20 Jul 2011, 08:20 #18

Ellen,



Thank you for making the enquiry. I had been given his mailing address and was going to write to him but I think I shall give that a miss now, he seems incredibly reluctant to give away any information. If Indeed he DID make 4 "Combat" jumps during WWII with the 82nd he must either have been in the 505th PIR or have been a pathfinder and conducted drops to guide resupply missions. My belief is that perhaps he wishes for the WWII era of his incredible career to be forgotten, he was at his youngest then and was probably witness to a lot of things he'd rather forget. We Were Soldiers does portray him as a tough CSM who seems to relish combat, and from what the book says this seems quite accurate, but he was a lot older in Vietnam, perhaps a lot more mentally prepared for what he was to face and far more capable of dealing with it. We've all known/met veterans who won't speak of combat and perhaps Basil Plumley is another. Its quite a shame he won't speak of it, as I can't help but think he might have been camped some 10 miles from my house for quite a period with the 505th, seems bizarre to think the digruntled CSM that scared the s**t out of his own men in Vietnam might once have been so close, but like Brandon says, i'm sure he has his reasons.



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20 Jul 2011, 13:05 #19

Basil Plumley very rarely attended 1st Cav reunions either so reunions are just not his thing.
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21 Jul 2011, 01:12 #20

Adam,



In a prior post Paul posted a link to the "P" section of WWII personnel. Plumley is listed as having served with B Battery of the 320th GFAB. In Phil Nordyke's book, on page 479, Lloyd Click, also of B Battery, 320th GFAB, is quoted as follows, "....Corporal (Basil) Plumley and I slipped to the end of our ditch....". It is my belief that Basil Plumley served in the 320th.



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"My first night on French soil, I thought of my country.  I thought of the French people and I thought 'I gotta do something...And I did.'"  Otis L. Sampson, E Co.; 505 PIR; 82nd Airborne Division - Comment to me over dinner in Seattle,WA - 2009.
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