Underwater missle launch??

Underwater missle launch??

Shives
Shives

March 26th, 2012, 4:27 pm #1

I've got no other info other than this clip. Any idea what we are watching?

http://www.wimp.com/missilelaunch/

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Stumpy
Stumpy

March 26th, 2012, 4:45 pm #2

Honestly it looks a little like CGI but giving it the benefit of the doubt there's no good reason I can think of to launch a missile into the water before it launches. Looks like the destroyer or frigate this is being filmed from is firing a torpedo and then a sub fires a pair of cruise missiles.

US sub firing a Tomahawk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwV-JucQktQ
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Nighthawke
Nighthawke

March 26th, 2012, 5:21 pm #3

The TLAM model plus Harpoon, SUBROC, they all do the same thing what was in the clip.
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Madcat
Madcat

March 26th, 2012, 6:30 pm #4

I dont thing it is a Tomahawk becaus the weapon that was launched from the ship is too small, I can't recognise the weapon but it is the first time I have seen a missile launched like that but it is interesting as a vessel that has torpedo tubes could serve as a launch platform.

From a bit of Google-fu I have found out that it is a Russian SS-N-15.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-15

Here is where I got the info.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93d_1332 ... comments=1

Could be wrong though
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Salda007
Salda007

March 26th, 2012, 6:33 pm #5

The TLAM model plus Harpoon, SUBROC, they all do the same thing what was in the clip.
Los Angeles-class subs carry a variant which is fired horizontally out of a torpedo tube. The capsule goes out clear of the sub, tilts back, and a rocket booster carries the missile up and out until the turbofan takes over. This looks like they were testing one but didn't have a submarine handy to pull the trigger, so they borrowed a convenient destroyer with a deck-mounted torpedo tube to serve as a launch platform. Probably not something you'd see in practice, but apparently worked just fine for the test.

Of course, I suppose if the Navy needed to shoot a few from a ship that lacked VLS or a box launcher (do they even have any?) this would be a way to do it.
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Salda007
Salda007

March 26th, 2012, 6:36 pm #6

Good find, Madcat!
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Stumpy
Stumpy

March 26th, 2012, 8:02 pm #7

I dont thing it is a Tomahawk becaus the weapon that was launched from the ship is too small, I can't recognise the weapon but it is the first time I have seen a missile launched like that but it is interesting as a vessel that has torpedo tubes could serve as a launch platform.

From a bit of Google-fu I have found out that it is a Russian SS-N-15.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-15

Here is where I got the info.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93d_1332 ... comments=1

Could be wrong though
From the liveleak comments: "These things are designed to be launched from a submarine platform but have since been modified to allow ships to "torpedo" them to achieve the same launch characteristics."

That makes sense. A rocket assisted torpedo crossed my mind but I couldn't think of a good reason to fire it into the water and then have it launch instead of straight into the air like our ASROCs.
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Madcat
Madcat

March 26th, 2012, 8:11 pm #8

I can see the logic behind it, it means you dont need to specially adapt a ship to fire missiles you save the weight of the launch tube and also the heat shields that a deck launch needs, plus missiles can be launched from much smaller ships resulting in much more BFYB "bang for your buck", I mean practically all the Russian ships have 21" torpedo tubes.

The draw back is the missiles are more complicated ( systems to make sure the missile is properly set in the water, getting flotation right so it sits at the correct depth etc etc.

A system like that though could be used by terrorist, all you would have to do is hide a couple of 21" torpedo tubes on a cargo ship or similar ( I am sure on most ships a few lengths of pipe will go unnoticed
sail to your target city quickly launch the missiles and then just keep on sailing as normal, I am sure it wouldn't take much to pack some explosive and radioactive material or even Bio or chemical agent in the warhead section.
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Madcat
Madcat

March 26th, 2012, 8:12 pm #9

Good find, Madcat!
Ninja Training.
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ed
ed

March 27th, 2012, 11:56 pm #10

I've got no other info other than this clip. Any idea what we are watching?

http://www.wimp.com/missilelaunch/

Shives
i guess it's an underwater missile.
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