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9:43 PM - Jun 07, 2018 #21

BruceBergman wrote:
jecook wrote: Indeed- I'm having the same problem, along with things like formatting and links. I'll eventually learn. :)
You young whippersnappers... 👴   I've been doing this since Bulletin Boards and Usenet, when we just gave up and typed out what we wanted to show but couldn't...  (:rolleyes:)  When you needed to do real computing you filled in punchcards and handed the whole deck in to be run on the School District Mainframe...

When a proper '.sig file' had a Cut line at the top (space dash dash CR/LF) and a max of 4 lines 72-characters, all printable - violate that and your account was disabled for wasting bandwidth.   When 120 baud was the norm, 300 baud was Fast and 1200 was Blazing - 14,400 arrived and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. 
I never did the punchcard thing, but I ain't no whippersnapper either.  My dad did, however.  He "telecommuted from home" in the 1970's!  We had an actual punchcard machine in our house, and a special data line connection to dial in to a mainframe.  Our touchtone (a new innovation in those days) classic desk phone had a special hookswitch on one side of the cradle that could be operated separately from the normal one on the other side (which actually "hung up" the phone).  I missed the 120 baud era, for me 300 was normal, 1200 was fast and 2400 was blazing, and BBS's sometimes restricted what you could do based on your modem speed.  I also had a unit on programming in COBOL in high school (:shudders:).  You only need to write one COBOL program in your lifetime, it becomes the basis for all future work (if any).
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12:56 AM - Jun 08, 2018 #22

Welsh Rat wrote:
hinermad wrote:
Robotek wrote: I'm a little surprised the Brits haven't banned cricket bats yet, or at least required that they be locked up at the fields in a "bat safe", only to be brought out for sanctioned games...
I'm told that it's illegal to keep a cricket bat, golf club or other piece of sporting equipment by your bedside for self defense. However, it -is- legal to keep all your sports gear together in one place, and if that happens to be next to your bed, well...
You can also keep a torch (flashlight) next to your bed.  My fathers is three foot long and made of metal.
Original Mag-Charger - Only 12-1/2" long, but a 5-cell Sub-D 8 AH Ni-Cad stack inside a solid Aluminum body, 1 pound 15 ounces of "that will leave a dent."  And 20W of Halogen lamp that will leave the attacker blinded. 

They have a Ni-MH and high-powered LED solution, but it's not the same. 
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1:42 AM - Jun 08, 2018 #23

Xheralt wrote:
Greyryder wrote:
Xheralt wrote: Darnit I'm so used to typing php tags I forgot this wasn't php-based.
Works better, if you use the right brackets. ;)
I think I meant to say BBCODE, not PHP, where the brackets I used would have been correct!
Actually, neither of your first pair of brackets was right -- they were both left. 😄
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4:00 PM - Jun 08, 2018 #24

Xheralt wrote:
BruceBergman wrote:
jecook wrote: Indeed- I'm having the same problem, along with things like formatting and links. I'll eventually learn. :)
You young whippersnappers... 👴   I've been doing this since Bulletin Boards and Usenet, when we just gave up and typed out what we wanted to show but couldn't...  (:rolleyes:)  When you needed to do real computing you filled in punchcards and handed the whole deck in to be run on the School District Mainframe...

When a proper '.sig file' had a Cut line at the top (space dash dash CR/LF) and a max of 4 lines 72-characters, all printable - violate that and your account was disabled for wasting bandwidth.   When 120 baud was the norm, 300 baud was Fast and 1200 was Blazing - 14,400 arrived and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. 
I never did the punchcard thing, but I ain't no whippersnapper either.  My dad did, however.  He "telecommuted from home" in the 1970's!  We had an actual punchcard machine in our house, and a special data line connection to dial in to a mainframe.  Our touchtone (a new innovation in those days) classic desk phone had a special hookswitch on one side of the cradle that could be operated separately from the normal one on the other side (which actually "hung up" the phone).  I missed the 120 baud era, for me 300 was normal, 1200 was fast and 2400 was blazing, and BBS's sometimes restricted what you could do based on your modem speed.  I also had a unit on programming in COBOL in high school (:shudders:).  You only need to write one COBOL program in your lifetime, it becomes the basis for all future work (if any).
Thank you all; I feel a bit younger now. 😁  (did the BBS thing in high school, dipped my toes into usenet when the high school got internet access my senior year, and have never looked back. )
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8:37 PM - Jun 08, 2018 #25

I did punch cards in college the first time around ('77-'82) on an IBM 360 (?). When the school upgraded to a Burroughs B7000, we got moved to dumb terminals, which worked fine until the input buffer was full, everything stopped, and the operator had to reset it (dumping everything pending in the process). Save often!

In high school we had a PDP11, and the advanced math class including BASIC programming on that. My dad worked at IBM (Glendale Labs, near Endicott), and we had an APL explorer post there. My math teacher let me do most of my programming assignments in APL rather than BASIC.

I had a Fortran class in engineering school ('89-'94) but after that class, anything that required programming I did in Pascal or C, until we got a lab full of Sun Spark Stations. Then I did quite a bit in MatLab, including a dynamic simulation (2d) of a robot actuator arm. (Transformation matrices anyone?)

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10:01 PM - Jun 08, 2018 #26

BruceBergman wrote:Original Mag-Charger - Only 12-1/2" long, but a 5-cell Sub-D 8 AH Ni-Cad stack inside a solid Aluminum body, 1 pound 15 ounces of "that will leave a dent."  And 20W of Halogen lamp that will leave the attacker blinded.
Ah, yes -- the time-honored "flash and bash" (shine the light in the target's eyes to blind him, then whack him over the head with the blunt end).
CF

"The right tool for the right job." [Anon.]
"Any tool can be the Right Tool." [Red Green]
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