Joined: January 11th, 2016, 8:57 pm

April 13th, 2018, 4:31 am #11

hinermad wrote:
Retromash wrote:I can imagine you looking at a completed strip, deciding there's no way this passes muster, and accidentally hitting the update button anyway.
I don't think the rest of us would notice. I suspect Doc is his own worst critic.
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Joined: March 6th, 2018, 10:00 am

April 13th, 2018, 9:26 am #12

mate, relax, it's fine. We're good with all this.

The old update schedule meant that the strip updated here in London (UK) about lunchtime and it's been my routine to nip out the office, grab a  sarnie and a cuppa and check out the latest update on TWB while stuffing my face. If the strips not there it's not a biggy i read it the next morning with the other strips i read. I'm not chuntering away ranting about the lack of a cartoon that for years i didn't pay a penny for.
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Joined: March 27th, 2016, 3:51 pm

April 13th, 2018, 11:29 am #13

Definitely going to echo the above- Doc we love what you do, so don’t sweat it too much.  

That being said- perhaps it might be time to consider a site redesign?  Rather than a few thousand (literally) static html pages, perhaps something a little more dynamic is needed now.  It also provides an opportunity to clean things up and make going through old strips easier- week/month at a time browsing, comments and tags per strip, etc.  Something for mobile users might be possible as well too- the strip keeps getting pushed down by other things, so lots of scrolling is a thing on smaller screens.
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Joined: February 7th, 2018, 2:27 am

April 13th, 2018, 2:07 pm #14

Most of it seems to be fixed now. I can finally see 4/02 which has been missing for a while but, http://the-whiteboard.com/autotwb2580.html has no ‘next’ button and its selector doesn’t go beyond itself.
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April 15th, 2018, 1:03 am #15

ChicagoPopsicle wrote: It also provides an opportunity to clean things up and make going through old strips easier- week/month at a time browsing, comments and tags per strip, etc.
Something like Freefall's "last three," perhaps, or Irregular Webcomic!'s "first/previous/next/latest five."
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April 15th, 2018, 8:38 am #16

ChicagoPopsicle wrote: That being said- perhaps it might be time to consider a site redesign?  Rather than a few thousand (literally) static html pages, perhaps something a little more dynamic is needed now.  It also provides an opportunity to clean things up and make going through old strips easier- week/month at a time browsing, comments and tags per strip, etc.  Something for mobile users might be possible as well too- the strip keeps getting pushed down by other things, so lots of scrolling is a thing on smaller screens.
-That's something I've been considering off and on for at least a decade. My problem is, I have no freakin' idea how to implement such a thing, and have never really had the time to practice. Hell, right now I desperately need to get up to speed with the CNC software side of things, and I haven't had so much as six and a half minutes to spare to watch a friggin' YouTube video.

I can't really afford to pay somebody to code it up and run it for me- anybody I can afford might not necessarily be trustworthy (not just from an "honesty" standpoint, but also reliability and availability- if/when the site goes down, I need to be able to deal with it right then, not next weekend, after classes let out, or something) and anybody that IS trustworthy, I generally can't afford. (Local guy gave me a rough quote for establishing a PHP database page for the comic, of $2 to $6K, and it'd be several hundred a month in upkeep and maintenance.)

Curt, the guy who wrote the current system, almost literally on a cocktail napkin some sixteen years ago, could almost certainly whip something up, but he doesn't have any more free time than I do- among other things, he's got an actual family. 😁

Yeah, I'd love to have a phone-friendly mobile site, a better archive system, a searchable archive- I know the phone guys (and gals) have been asking for bigger "back" and "next" icons- and a host of other cool, hip and modern goodies, but the simple fact is, I'm an old-school manual machinist. I have basically zero actual coding or programming background, I barely know enough old-school HTML to make a chintzy webpage, and I don't make enough money to pay somebody to do it all for me.

I am, however, open to suggestions. Well, suggestions that don't include "learn PERL", "learn PHP", "use Comicpress" or "hire my 10-year-old nephew". 😁

Doc.
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April 16th, 2018, 5:29 pm #17

Is there some reason why Comicpress is not acceptable? Or. maybe it would be better to ask if there is some available software that is acceptable?

Given the size of your site, switching over to anything else is going to be somewhat painful in any case, but after that it needs to be at least as easy to use as what you have now. Maybe you could ask some other comic artists what they use and recommend.
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April 16th, 2018, 7:11 pm #18

Kymation wrote: Is there some reason why Comicpress is not acceptable? Or. maybe it would be better to ask if there is some available software that is acceptable?
-ComicPress is an add-on/template for WordPress, which has been notorious for it's security holes. For a while there, my hosting company wouln't even allow WP/CP on their servers- and probably still doesn't, I haven't asked in a while.

Last time we tried it- my old print guy used WP to build the ill-fated old online store for me back in 2010- it was regularly attacked, broken into at least twice, and required almost weekly updates and security patches.

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April 16th, 2018, 8:30 pm #19

So what would be acceptable? Maybe what Howard Tayler is using? If it doesn't require Howard's income to be able to afford it, anything that is good enough to stand up to the hordes that read his comic must be pretty sturdy. Are there other creators you could ask for recommendations?
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April 16th, 2018, 10:22 pm #20

Kymation wrote:So what would be acceptable? Maybe what Howard Tayler is using? If it doesn't require Howard's income to be able to afford it, anything that is good enough to stand up to the hordes that read his comic must be pretty sturdy. Are there other creators you could ask for recommendations?
-What would be acceptable is something I actually know how to create and use. And right now, that barely only includes HTML. 😁

Howard is an ex-Novell IT guy, and as I recall, coded his own site, and continues to do so today. The Mac Hall guys, as I recall, wrote their own, the Penny Arcade guys started out with a handwritten site, but were soon able to afford to pay professionals to update and maintain it, and so on.

There's a LOT of comics out there on ComicPress, and if my host allowed it, there's likely no reason I couldn't migrate over. I still don't know WordPress or Comicpress- I actually tried rezzing up a "blog" with WP years ago, when LiveJournal was fading and personal blogs were gaining popularity. It's not- or wasn't then, anyway- as easy as just plunking the software in and going live. You apparently had to have at least some PHP knowledge, the host had to be configured to accept it, etc. etc.

For people already familiar with that kind of thing, I'm sure it was easy, and is likely even easier today. But the same could be said of machining- personally, I'm very familiar and comfortable with a wide range of machine tools. Plunk a guy who's a whiz at writing his own from-scratch PHP databases in front of a manual mill and tell him to carve a complete 'Cocker body from a blank block, and he's gonna feel as lost as I do at his job. 😁

Doc.
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