Out of curiosity; closed PB businesses?

Out of curiosity; closed PB businesses?

Doc Nickel
Doc Nickel

February 17th, 2012, 1:29 am #1

A couple of the posts below brought to mind several paintball companies from back in the day that have closed down for whatever reason. In a fit of nostalgia, I started wondering how many there were, and which ones I've forgotten about over the years.

So, let's list 'em.

Anything goes, but we need details, if you can. Whether it's a full-sized company like Smart Parts, or a magazine like Paint Check, or a relatively small shop like Idema Combat Systems, or a single guy in a garage like Punisher.

Let's see how much detail we can get. An example would be something like:

"Smart Parts, manufacturer, circa 1988 to 2010, closed due to overextended financing when the recession hit."

(In cases where it's known, like SP, additional details like "sank too much money at a bad time into promoting inferior .50 cal" would be a good addition.)

Anyone or anything you can think of that's no longer in the paintball biz. Manufacturers (Smart Parts, PneuVentures- and name the guns or parts they made) magazines (Paint Check, P8nt Magazine) distributors (888 Paintball) high-profile stores (Olympic, and is Boston Paintball still open?) notable airsmiths (Brad Nestle, Punisher) and so on.

A starting list to prime the memory-pump, in no particular order. Some of you may be able to fill in the details for us:

Canadian Brass Eagle (Cobra pump, Jaguar, Nightmare)
Pre-Daisy US Brass Eagle (Stingray, Talon)
Daisy-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker)
Self-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker, Raptor)
WDP (Angel)
WGP ('Cockers) (are these guys gone? They sold out to K2, so the company up to the sale applies.)
Paint Check Magazine
Paintball Sports International Magazine
Paintball Player's Bible Magazine
Paintball 2Extremes Magazine
Paintball RAGazine
Splat Magazine
P8nt Magazine
Is Epic still around? Making the ICE Epic "boltless" marker?
ICD (Bushmaster, Freestyle- I hear they still make a few PB parts, but no whole markers)
AKA I'm not sure about- are they still making Tornados?
Andy Greenwell (Blade marker)
TASO (a distributor, I think they got bought out by PMI)
PMI (who I think got bought out by Crosman/Sheridan)
Diamond Labs
Is J&J, the brass barrel place, still around?
Glenn Palmer (retired)
Tom Kaye (more or less retired... wait, is he still making those compressors?)
Whoever made the Satco 700
F.A.S.Tech (original Illustrator)
Line SI (Bushmaster pump, ProMaster)
Is Govnair still around in the UK?
How about Nitro Duck? Or rather, Paintball Games Supplies, I think it was called?
Air America (HPA tanks, incl. the Apocalypse and Armageddon)
KAPP
Shocktech
HyperSportsWorks (guy's name was John something, I think, had a fire in his shop, couldn't afford to rebuild, made shoebox Shocker accessories including grip frames)
Whatever company made the "Alien" marker, or the Omen, or the Nova and SuperNova
Ditto the Storm, Master, Scorpion and Top Gun.
There was a guy by name of Alexander Rose, that had a doodad called the Zander Hose heater
Sam Tussing (used to make LP mods for the TS-1 and a bunch of PGP mods. He and his jeweler buddy coined the term "Tinker's Guild" and said I could use it here for this site.)
Al Mollick (Apparently had suffered a brain injury in a motorcycle accident, and when unmedicated, was prone to posting epic screeds about taking over the PB industry. Had a webpage called "Al's Porno and Paintball", which, to use a TVTrope, was exactly what it said on the tin. Claimed to have "invented" the drop-forward, and did, in fact, have more than a few good ideas, but was largely unable to implement them I suspect in large part due to the aformentioned affliction.)
Rhino Joe, tended to specialize in Rainmaker mods, supposedly got bored and went over to RC cars
Montneel (Icon, Z-1, Mega-Z)
Two or three other people that made Icon clones, like the Checkmate
Racegun
Is Pro-Team still around? Micromags, VM bodies, accessories like 'Mag bolts and inline filters?
Skanline (store/distributor)
I&I Sports (also a store/distributor, they're still around, I think, but got out of the PB biz in favor of selling cheap martial-arts and airsoft equipment.)
Who made the "Ricochet" loader? Are they still around?
KC (the KC NoHotShots regulator)
Jim Drew (what was his biz, Wicked Air Sports?)
Northarc (Morlock, MiniMorlock, Gladiator, Glacier, Cheetah, etc. etc.)
Vents (Vents predator goggles)
Scott Racing (still around, but I don't think they make PB goggles anymore, do they?)
UVEX (not really a PB supplier, but were an early brand of goggle- UVEX later prohibited the use of their goggles in projectile sports.)
LAPCO (When Colin owned it anyway, he was bought out or kicked out a few years ago.)
Cooper-T (he passed away, I believe, and his son was going to liquidate the remaining inventory)
Gramps & Grizzly (an airsmith shop in, I think, California)
Fred Moulton (the artist behind the old "Sgt. Splatter" comics in APG, and some early PB T-shirts)
Durty Dan (Canadian PB writer, drifted away as he didn't like the modern fast-paced case-and-a-half-per-game tourney version of paintball)
I think Ken "Hollywood" Guilder is still writing for PB News, isn't he? Though I have to admit I'm not sure even PB News is still being printed...)

I could sit here and rack my brains for even more, and I'm sure there's a bunch I've forgotten- which is kind of the point of the post - but I'm sure a lot of you can fill in a lot of the blanks.

Who else have we forgotten?

Doc.
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bunker_o_matic
bunker_o_matic

February 17th, 2012, 2:02 am #2

its just much much smaller and they stopped doing private label milling. I talked to renick in december and I know for a fact that his field the badlandz is still running.
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Hans
Hans

February 17th, 2012, 3:23 am #3

A couple of the posts below brought to mind several paintball companies from back in the day that have closed down for whatever reason. In a fit of nostalgia, I started wondering how many there were, and which ones I've forgotten about over the years.

So, let's list 'em.

Anything goes, but we need details, if you can. Whether it's a full-sized company like Smart Parts, or a magazine like Paint Check, or a relatively small shop like Idema Combat Systems, or a single guy in a garage like Punisher.

Let's see how much detail we can get. An example would be something like:

"Smart Parts, manufacturer, circa 1988 to 2010, closed due to overextended financing when the recession hit."

(In cases where it's known, like SP, additional details like "sank too much money at a bad time into promoting inferior .50 cal" would be a good addition.)

Anyone or anything you can think of that's no longer in the paintball biz. Manufacturers (Smart Parts, PneuVentures- and name the guns or parts they made) magazines (Paint Check, P8nt Magazine) distributors (888 Paintball) high-profile stores (Olympic, and is Boston Paintball still open?) notable airsmiths (Brad Nestle, Punisher) and so on.

A starting list to prime the memory-pump, in no particular order. Some of you may be able to fill in the details for us:

Canadian Brass Eagle (Cobra pump, Jaguar, Nightmare)
Pre-Daisy US Brass Eagle (Stingray, Talon)
Daisy-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker)
Self-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker, Raptor)
WDP (Angel)
WGP ('Cockers) (are these guys gone? They sold out to K2, so the company up to the sale applies.)
Paint Check Magazine
Paintball Sports International Magazine
Paintball Player's Bible Magazine
Paintball 2Extremes Magazine
Paintball RAGazine
Splat Magazine
P8nt Magazine
Is Epic still around? Making the ICE Epic "boltless" marker?
ICD (Bushmaster, Freestyle- I hear they still make a few PB parts, but no whole markers)
AKA I'm not sure about- are they still making Tornados?
Andy Greenwell (Blade marker)
TASO (a distributor, I think they got bought out by PMI)
PMI (who I think got bought out by Crosman/Sheridan)
Diamond Labs
Is J&J, the brass barrel place, still around?
Glenn Palmer (retired)
Tom Kaye (more or less retired... wait, is he still making those compressors?)
Whoever made the Satco 700
F.A.S.Tech (original Illustrator)
Line SI (Bushmaster pump, ProMaster)
Is Govnair still around in the UK?
How about Nitro Duck? Or rather, Paintball Games Supplies, I think it was called?
Air America (HPA tanks, incl. the Apocalypse and Armageddon)
KAPP
Shocktech
HyperSportsWorks (guy's name was John something, I think, had a fire in his shop, couldn't afford to rebuild, made shoebox Shocker accessories including grip frames)
Whatever company made the "Alien" marker, or the Omen, or the Nova and SuperNova
Ditto the Storm, Master, Scorpion and Top Gun.
There was a guy by name of Alexander Rose, that had a doodad called the Zander Hose heater
Sam Tussing (used to make LP mods for the TS-1 and a bunch of PGP mods. He and his jeweler buddy coined the term "Tinker's Guild" and said I could use it here for this site.)
Al Mollick (Apparently had suffered a brain injury in a motorcycle accident, and when unmedicated, was prone to posting epic screeds about taking over the PB industry. Had a webpage called "Al's Porno and Paintball", which, to use a TVTrope, was exactly what it said on the tin. Claimed to have "invented" the drop-forward, and did, in fact, have more than a few good ideas, but was largely unable to implement them I suspect in large part due to the aformentioned affliction.)
Rhino Joe, tended to specialize in Rainmaker mods, supposedly got bored and went over to RC cars
Montneel (Icon, Z-1, Mega-Z)
Two or three other people that made Icon clones, like the Checkmate
Racegun
Is Pro-Team still around? Micromags, VM bodies, accessories like 'Mag bolts and inline filters?
Skanline (store/distributor)
I&I Sports (also a store/distributor, they're still around, I think, but got out of the PB biz in favor of selling cheap martial-arts and airsoft equipment.)
Who made the "Ricochet" loader? Are they still around?
KC (the KC NoHotShots regulator)
Jim Drew (what was his biz, Wicked Air Sports?)
Northarc (Morlock, MiniMorlock, Gladiator, Glacier, Cheetah, etc. etc.)
Vents (Vents predator goggles)
Scott Racing (still around, but I don't think they make PB goggles anymore, do they?)
UVEX (not really a PB supplier, but were an early brand of goggle- UVEX later prohibited the use of their goggles in projectile sports.)
LAPCO (When Colin owned it anyway, he was bought out or kicked out a few years ago.)
Cooper-T (he passed away, I believe, and his son was going to liquidate the remaining inventory)
Gramps & Grizzly (an airsmith shop in, I think, California)
Fred Moulton (the artist behind the old "Sgt. Splatter" comics in APG, and some early PB T-shirts)
Durty Dan (Canadian PB writer, drifted away as he didn't like the modern fast-paced case-and-a-half-per-game tourney version of paintball)
I think Ken "Hollywood" Guilder is still writing for PB News, isn't he? Though I have to admit I'm not sure even PB News is still being printed...)

I could sit here and rack my brains for even more, and I'm sure there's a bunch I've forgotten- which is kind of the point of the post - but I'm sure a lot of you can fill in a lot of the blanks.

Who else have we forgotten?

Doc.
Siegecraft Paintball.
Stock class and pump action mini-store
1999-2004 or so.
R.I.P.

Really, I just got to hate paintball, and wanted out of the sport.
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Timberwolf
Timberwolf

February 17th, 2012, 3:41 am #4

A couple of the posts below brought to mind several paintball companies from back in the day that have closed down for whatever reason. In a fit of nostalgia, I started wondering how many there were, and which ones I've forgotten about over the years.

So, let's list 'em.

Anything goes, but we need details, if you can. Whether it's a full-sized company like Smart Parts, or a magazine like Paint Check, or a relatively small shop like Idema Combat Systems, or a single guy in a garage like Punisher.

Let's see how much detail we can get. An example would be something like:

"Smart Parts, manufacturer, circa 1988 to 2010, closed due to overextended financing when the recession hit."

(In cases where it's known, like SP, additional details like "sank too much money at a bad time into promoting inferior .50 cal" would be a good addition.)

Anyone or anything you can think of that's no longer in the paintball biz. Manufacturers (Smart Parts, PneuVentures- and name the guns or parts they made) magazines (Paint Check, P8nt Magazine) distributors (888 Paintball) high-profile stores (Olympic, and is Boston Paintball still open?) notable airsmiths (Brad Nestle, Punisher) and so on.

A starting list to prime the memory-pump, in no particular order. Some of you may be able to fill in the details for us:

Canadian Brass Eagle (Cobra pump, Jaguar, Nightmare)
Pre-Daisy US Brass Eagle (Stingray, Talon)
Daisy-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker)
Self-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker, Raptor)
WDP (Angel)
WGP ('Cockers) (are these guys gone? They sold out to K2, so the company up to the sale applies.)
Paint Check Magazine
Paintball Sports International Magazine
Paintball Player's Bible Magazine
Paintball 2Extremes Magazine
Paintball RAGazine
Splat Magazine
P8nt Magazine
Is Epic still around? Making the ICE Epic "boltless" marker?
ICD (Bushmaster, Freestyle- I hear they still make a few PB parts, but no whole markers)
AKA I'm not sure about- are they still making Tornados?
Andy Greenwell (Blade marker)
TASO (a distributor, I think they got bought out by PMI)
PMI (who I think got bought out by Crosman/Sheridan)
Diamond Labs
Is J&J, the brass barrel place, still around?
Glenn Palmer (retired)
Tom Kaye (more or less retired... wait, is he still making those compressors?)
Whoever made the Satco 700
F.A.S.Tech (original Illustrator)
Line SI (Bushmaster pump, ProMaster)
Is Govnair still around in the UK?
How about Nitro Duck? Or rather, Paintball Games Supplies, I think it was called?
Air America (HPA tanks, incl. the Apocalypse and Armageddon)
KAPP
Shocktech
HyperSportsWorks (guy's name was John something, I think, had a fire in his shop, couldn't afford to rebuild, made shoebox Shocker accessories including grip frames)
Whatever company made the "Alien" marker, or the Omen, or the Nova and SuperNova
Ditto the Storm, Master, Scorpion and Top Gun.
There was a guy by name of Alexander Rose, that had a doodad called the Zander Hose heater
Sam Tussing (used to make LP mods for the TS-1 and a bunch of PGP mods. He and his jeweler buddy coined the term "Tinker's Guild" and said I could use it here for this site.)
Al Mollick (Apparently had suffered a brain injury in a motorcycle accident, and when unmedicated, was prone to posting epic screeds about taking over the PB industry. Had a webpage called "Al's Porno and Paintball", which, to use a TVTrope, was exactly what it said on the tin. Claimed to have "invented" the drop-forward, and did, in fact, have more than a few good ideas, but was largely unable to implement them I suspect in large part due to the aformentioned affliction.)
Rhino Joe, tended to specialize in Rainmaker mods, supposedly got bored and went over to RC cars
Montneel (Icon, Z-1, Mega-Z)
Two or three other people that made Icon clones, like the Checkmate
Racegun
Is Pro-Team still around? Micromags, VM bodies, accessories like 'Mag bolts and inline filters?
Skanline (store/distributor)
I&I Sports (also a store/distributor, they're still around, I think, but got out of the PB biz in favor of selling cheap martial-arts and airsoft equipment.)
Who made the "Ricochet" loader? Are they still around?
KC (the KC NoHotShots regulator)
Jim Drew (what was his biz, Wicked Air Sports?)
Northarc (Morlock, MiniMorlock, Gladiator, Glacier, Cheetah, etc. etc.)
Vents (Vents predator goggles)
Scott Racing (still around, but I don't think they make PB goggles anymore, do they?)
UVEX (not really a PB supplier, but were an early brand of goggle- UVEX later prohibited the use of their goggles in projectile sports.)
LAPCO (When Colin owned it anyway, he was bought out or kicked out a few years ago.)
Cooper-T (he passed away, I believe, and his son was going to liquidate the remaining inventory)
Gramps & Grizzly (an airsmith shop in, I think, California)
Fred Moulton (the artist behind the old "Sgt. Splatter" comics in APG, and some early PB T-shirts)
Durty Dan (Canadian PB writer, drifted away as he didn't like the modern fast-paced case-and-a-half-per-game tourney version of paintball)
I think Ken "Hollywood" Guilder is still writing for PB News, isn't he? Though I have to admit I'm not sure even PB News is still being printed...)

I could sit here and rack my brains for even more, and I'm sure there's a bunch I've forgotten- which is kind of the point of the post - but I'm sure a lot of you can fill in a lot of the blanks.

Who else have we forgotten?

Doc.
Not like I ever put out a product or service, right?

But if I did, I'd call them the Chaos Chip, DV8 Board, DV8 LCD, Chaos Eye, etc



http://www.angelfire.com/extreme2/bushm ... ronics.htm

There was a company out of Indiana, but for the life of me I can't recall their name. I did some work for them and designed a process to use their existing body extrusions from their blow backs, and create an electro they could offer with minimal machining processes. Ken at KP Customs did the machining for me.

I met with them, they liked my design, said "we'll call you" the proceded to use the design and never even pay me for the R&D, parts or reimburse my expenses with Ken.

Not sure why I seem to have blocked them from memory...
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Ken Newell
Ken Newell

February 17th, 2012, 3:51 am #5

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Doc Nickel
Doc Nickel

February 17th, 2012, 3:56 am #6

Siegecraft Paintball.
Stock class and pump action mini-store
1999-2004 or so.
R.I.P.

Really, I just got to hate paintball, and wanted out of the sport.
... You mentioned USI, too. I can't recall what the acronym stood for, but they made the USI Destroyer (a potato-cannon style bazooka) and what was the other one... the Patriot? An inline blowback similar to the Model 98, but had a regulator at the back end like an Automag.

I think they had a pump, too...

And, that same inline design was later used in the Mirage, another one of those companies I can't recall the name of the manufacturer.

And speaking of pumps, there was the TM-11A, the Razorback, the Outlaw, the Wintec, and the NW-89 and NW-90. Gimme a little while and I might be able to recall the makers of each of those, but feel free to pipe up in the meantime.

Who was the shop that did the "Tip-n'-Strip" mod for the 68 Special? How about the guy that made the "Frank Guns"? Or the brass PGP-based Anhiliator? (There was also an Obliterator.)

Ah, RebLine is another- started out making Nelson upgrades, eventually made a whole Nelson clone (including one in solid brass, complete with silencer, in a fitted attache case.)

Any others?

Doc.
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Timberwolf
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February 17th, 2012, 3:59 am #7

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Doc Nickel
Doc Nickel

February 17th, 2012, 9:28 am #8

A couple of the posts below brought to mind several paintball companies from back in the day that have closed down for whatever reason. In a fit of nostalgia, I started wondering how many there were, and which ones I've forgotten about over the years.

So, let's list 'em.

Anything goes, but we need details, if you can. Whether it's a full-sized company like Smart Parts, or a magazine like Paint Check, or a relatively small shop like Idema Combat Systems, or a single guy in a garage like Punisher.

Let's see how much detail we can get. An example would be something like:

"Smart Parts, manufacturer, circa 1988 to 2010, closed due to overextended financing when the recession hit."

(In cases where it's known, like SP, additional details like "sank too much money at a bad time into promoting inferior .50 cal" would be a good addition.)

Anyone or anything you can think of that's no longer in the paintball biz. Manufacturers (Smart Parts, PneuVentures- and name the guns or parts they made) magazines (Paint Check, P8nt Magazine) distributors (888 Paintball) high-profile stores (Olympic, and is Boston Paintball still open?) notable airsmiths (Brad Nestle, Punisher) and so on.

A starting list to prime the memory-pump, in no particular order. Some of you may be able to fill in the details for us:

Canadian Brass Eagle (Cobra pump, Jaguar, Nightmare)
Pre-Daisy US Brass Eagle (Stingray, Talon)
Daisy-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker)
Self-owned Brass Eagle (Stingray, Tigershark, Rainmaker, Raptor)
WDP (Angel)
WGP ('Cockers) (are these guys gone? They sold out to K2, so the company up to the sale applies.)
Paint Check Magazine
Paintball Sports International Magazine
Paintball Player's Bible Magazine
Paintball 2Extremes Magazine
Paintball RAGazine
Splat Magazine
P8nt Magazine
Is Epic still around? Making the ICE Epic "boltless" marker?
ICD (Bushmaster, Freestyle- I hear they still make a few PB parts, but no whole markers)
AKA I'm not sure about- are they still making Tornados?
Andy Greenwell (Blade marker)
TASO (a distributor, I think they got bought out by PMI)
PMI (who I think got bought out by Crosman/Sheridan)
Diamond Labs
Is J&J, the brass barrel place, still around?
Glenn Palmer (retired)
Tom Kaye (more or less retired... wait, is he still making those compressors?)
Whoever made the Satco 700
F.A.S.Tech (original Illustrator)
Line SI (Bushmaster pump, ProMaster)
Is Govnair still around in the UK?
How about Nitro Duck? Or rather, Paintball Games Supplies, I think it was called?
Air America (HPA tanks, incl. the Apocalypse and Armageddon)
KAPP
Shocktech
HyperSportsWorks (guy's name was John something, I think, had a fire in his shop, couldn't afford to rebuild, made shoebox Shocker accessories including grip frames)
Whatever company made the "Alien" marker, or the Omen, or the Nova and SuperNova
Ditto the Storm, Master, Scorpion and Top Gun.
There was a guy by name of Alexander Rose, that had a doodad called the Zander Hose heater
Sam Tussing (used to make LP mods for the TS-1 and a bunch of PGP mods. He and his jeweler buddy coined the term "Tinker's Guild" and said I could use it here for this site.)
Al Mollick (Apparently had suffered a brain injury in a motorcycle accident, and when unmedicated, was prone to posting epic screeds about taking over the PB industry. Had a webpage called "Al's Porno and Paintball", which, to use a TVTrope, was exactly what it said on the tin. Claimed to have "invented" the drop-forward, and did, in fact, have more than a few good ideas, but was largely unable to implement them I suspect in large part due to the aformentioned affliction.)
Rhino Joe, tended to specialize in Rainmaker mods, supposedly got bored and went over to RC cars
Montneel (Icon, Z-1, Mega-Z)
Two or three other people that made Icon clones, like the Checkmate
Racegun
Is Pro-Team still around? Micromags, VM bodies, accessories like 'Mag bolts and inline filters?
Skanline (store/distributor)
I&I Sports (also a store/distributor, they're still around, I think, but got out of the PB biz in favor of selling cheap martial-arts and airsoft equipment.)
Who made the "Ricochet" loader? Are they still around?
KC (the KC NoHotShots regulator)
Jim Drew (what was his biz, Wicked Air Sports?)
Northarc (Morlock, MiniMorlock, Gladiator, Glacier, Cheetah, etc. etc.)
Vents (Vents predator goggles)
Scott Racing (still around, but I don't think they make PB goggles anymore, do they?)
UVEX (not really a PB supplier, but were an early brand of goggle- UVEX later prohibited the use of their goggles in projectile sports.)
LAPCO (When Colin owned it anyway, he was bought out or kicked out a few years ago.)
Cooper-T (he passed away, I believe, and his son was going to liquidate the remaining inventory)
Gramps & Grizzly (an airsmith shop in, I think, California)
Fred Moulton (the artist behind the old "Sgt. Splatter" comics in APG, and some early PB T-shirts)
Durty Dan (Canadian PB writer, drifted away as he didn't like the modern fast-paced case-and-a-half-per-game tourney version of paintball)
I think Ken "Hollywood" Guilder is still writing for PB News, isn't he? Though I have to admit I'm not sure even PB News is still being printed...)

I could sit here and rack my brains for even more, and I'm sure there's a bunch I've forgotten- which is kind of the point of the post - but I'm sure a lot of you can fill in a lot of the blanks.

Who else have we forgotten?

Doc.
This'd make kind of a fun database, if we could get the details organized and readable...

More musings from way back:

Who made the original "Battle Handles" for the Nel-Spot and PGP?

Is Nelson, of Nel-Spots, still in business?

There used to be two or three production pump handles for the Nel-Spot; who made those?

Or "Speed Wheels". I recall a star shaped one, an aluminum round and a Delrin round version. Splatmaster speed wheels too. And somebody made a Rapide direct feed- it was the same kind of "fiber filled" plastic, was that factory NSG?

National Survival Games is another one for the defunct roster. They made, of course, the Splatmaster and Rapide.

What was that company that vacuum-molded those skull masks?

Who made the GZ1000 and GZ2000?

We might have a subsection of manufacturers that are still in business, who used to make PB gear, but now don't. Like Winchester (made, or at least branded, cheap Spyder knockoffs) Crosman and Mike Rock. Does Sheridan still make a PGP? Would it count if nobody really bought rams from Clippard anymore?

How about Belsales? Are they still around? Or Marksmann? Wasn't there a company that made a UK knockoff of the Automag?

Who made the old Puma pump? And is the ParaOrdnance that made the old Model 85 the same PO that makes 1911 clones today?

I'm not sure I realized the depth of this when I asked the original question.

Doc.

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smorizio
smorizio

February 17th, 2012, 12:40 pm #9

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forced out biz from the smart parts pat issue. pmi is still in biz it still making markers but it a kee brand now.
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Doc Nickel
Doc Nickel

February 17th, 2012, 1:52 pm #10

Wasn't there something about WDP (or rather, K2 at the time) also suing over the suspiciously-'Cocker-like body design of AM's pumps, too?

Also, to keep adding to the list, there was Air Power (made a pump I can't recall the name of, and of course the Vector), a company called, I think, Pneu-Ordnance that made the Storm, and what was the company that made that one steel-bodied reusable landmine all those years ago?

Man there's a lot of junk in my head.

Doc.
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