Blowup Dolls are more dangerous than a gun at school.

Blowup Dolls are more dangerous than a gun at school.

Critter Rhode
Critter Rhode

July 6th, 2011, 4:22 pm #1

A 18yr old Senior student as a prank left a blow up doll in a restroom. Now he faces upto 8yrs in prison.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011070 ... %7Cmostcom

Going by this web site, having a gun would have been a lesser charge.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/are-blow ... than-guns/
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Nighthawke
Nighthawke

July 6th, 2011, 8:11 pm #2

"Public school administrators are far more dangerous than owning a gun."

Fixed it!

Morons, you know the school board won't survive the next election, if they wait that long. They might just go ahead and set up recall elections to gut the stagnant bureaucracy and put in better leadership.
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Nohbody
Nohbody

July 6th, 2011, 11:51 pm #3

A 18yr old Senior student as a prank left a blow up doll in a restroom. Now he faces upto 8yrs in prison.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011070 ... %7Cmostcom

Going by this web site, having a gun would have been a lesser charge.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/are-blow ... than-guns/
While the proposed punishment of the teen (including a felony charge that can result in 2-8 years in prison) is most certainly excessive, he was arrested not for the doll, but because of his behaviors as seen by a janitor and the security cameras outside the school whose footage was reviewed after the janitor reported what he saw.

The teen went in wearing a hoodie and latex gloves to conceal his identity, carrying a package under the hoodie. When he emerged from the school, the cameras saw that he didn't have the package with him any more as he was leaving the area, which he did not at a leisurely stroll but in a hurry.

While the town is sufficiently "small change" enough that the notion of a terrorist attack there is dubious at best (and that's being generous), outside of those living nearby how many people had heard of Columbine, CO before those two f-wits went on their rampage? Remember that part of their plan originally included detonating multiple pipebombs in the school.

As I said, though, the charges are certainly excessive, but without reading the law under which he's charged I suspect that sloppy, overly broad law writing was involved, along with school administrators being idiots by applying the law in a way it wasn't intended by the legislature, and unknowingly invoking the Law of Unintended Consequences.
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MephitMark
MephitMark

July 7th, 2011, 1:15 am #4

A 18yr old Senior student as a prank left a blow up doll in a restroom. Now he faces upto 8yrs in prison.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011070 ... %7Cmostcom

Going by this web site, having a gun would have been a lesser charge.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/are-blow ... than-guns/
Unfortunately to many appointed people like public attorneys, are always looking for ways to make their record look better then it is. If there is some way to get a felony conviction over a misdemeanor, many will. Because, come election time time when they are running for some office, misdemeanor don't count. Felonies are, and the more convictions the better they 'think' they are to the voters. Until the voters learn of their 'game'.
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Solar
Solar

July 7th, 2011, 6:02 am #5

While the proposed punishment of the teen (including a felony charge that can result in 2-8 years in prison) is most certainly excessive, he was arrested not for the doll, but because of his behaviors as seen by a janitor and the security cameras outside the school whose footage was reviewed after the janitor reported what he saw.

The teen went in wearing a hoodie and latex gloves to conceal his identity, carrying a package under the hoodie. When he emerged from the school, the cameras saw that he didn't have the package with him any more as he was leaving the area, which he did not at a leisurely stroll but in a hurry.

While the town is sufficiently "small change" enough that the notion of a terrorist attack there is dubious at best (and that's being generous), outside of those living nearby how many people had heard of Columbine, CO before those two f-wits went on their rampage? Remember that part of their plan originally included detonating multiple pipebombs in the school.

As I said, though, the charges are certainly excessive, but without reading the law under which he's charged I suspect that sloppy, overly broad law writing was involved, along with school administrators being idiots by applying the law in a way it wasn't intended by the legislature, and unknowingly invoking the Law of Unintended Consequences.
...shows how successfully those very, very few who actually went on a rampage or actually did terrorist attacks screwed up our minds.

Or is it the media gleefully pouncing on every opportunity to spread the terrible message?

Who is to blame? A senior committing a prank (like thousands of seniors everywhere every year did for decades), or some grown-ups being paranoid because something happened years ago at a school far away?
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FireFrenzy
FireFrenzy

July 7th, 2011, 10:20 am #6

A 18yr old Senior student as a prank left a blow up doll in a restroom. Now he faces upto 8yrs in prison.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011070 ... %7Cmostcom

Going by this web site, having a gun would have been a lesser charge.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/are-blow ... than-guns/
Both the kid for picking such a DUMB ASS exit strategy and the school for going postal...
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Squirlly
Squirlly

July 7th, 2011, 1:27 pm #7

A 18yr old Senior student as a prank left a blow up doll in a restroom. Now he faces upto 8yrs in prison.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011070 ... %7Cmostcom

Going by this web site, having a gun would have been a lesser charge.

http://www.nerdist.com/2011/06/are-blow ... than-guns/
I mean really, if this was the case poor Doc would be in the slammer on those cool days in Alaska where he don't want to fire up the furnace but it's a but too cold to wear just shirt sleeves.

This kid did NOT cause a panic the idiot that ASSUMED it was a bomb situation did.

-Tim
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Nohbody
Nohbody

July 7th, 2011, 1:47 pm #8

Had he just casually walked out afterward, no one probably would've thought too much of it. Wearing fall gear in the summer may seem a bit unusual to some, but no more than the usual variations of normal human behavior.

However, given that he rushed out like he was in a hurry to get away (he was, if for another reason), and was seen without a package he previously had with him on the way in, while the school may have overreacted (and the prosecution definitely overreacted by whipping out a felony charge) it's not exactly a case of 2+2=cucumber, either.
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Nohbody
Nohbody

July 7th, 2011, 1:58 pm #9

Both the kid for picking such a DUMB ASS exit strategy and the school for going postal...
So, if I were to pick a moment of stupidity (and I'm certainly not going to try to defend the reactions of the school and prosecutor as intelligent decisions) from some rinky-dink town in the middle of your country and say everyone from your country was suffering from "a serious case of stupid", it would be alright?
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Z50
Z50

July 7th, 2011, 4:37 pm #10

Had he just casually walked out afterward, no one probably would've thought too much of it. Wearing fall gear in the summer may seem a bit unusual to some, but no more than the usual variations of normal human behavior.

However, given that he rushed out like he was in a hurry to get away (he was, if for another reason), and was seen without a package he previously had with him on the way in, while the school may have overreacted (and the prosecution definitely overreacted by whipping out a felony charge) it's not exactly a case of 2+2=cucumber, either.
I'd like to know what exactly this kid is being charged with. Running away from a bomb that you planted is not a crime last I checked. Planting a bomb obviously is, calling a bomb threat is, but running isn't unless a cop tells you to stop. None the less, there is no bomb. There was no bomb, and there was no threat of a bomb. Paranoid people who are the butt of a joke are upset but again, upsetting someone is not a crime. Two and Two always equal four. Two and some imagination is still only two.
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