Apparently my monitor is dying...

Apparently my monitor is dying...

Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

April 15th, 2018, 3:51 am #1

One of my three monitors, a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, which I think I bought back in, like, 2006, is apparently starting to die.

What's happening is that it doesn't want to 'wake up'. First thing in the morning, when I boot up, it stays black. I first thought it was a PC problem and rebooted, at which point it all came up properly, but a couple days later, it started doing it when trying to 'wake up' after idling for a while.

I found out I can hit the power button on the monitor and it'll pop back up, and once up, it appears to stay up. And that's the only problem- no ghosting, no dead pixels, no dark areas, no burn-in, etc. Really, this thing's been rock solid for over a decade.

Won't affect my work, of course, as I have the other two monitors if this one dies entirely, and I have half a dozen more- albeit smaller- ones floating around here I can swap to if needed.

However, I'm kind of thinking it might be time to pick up a new one, or even a new set if I can get a good price for two. What would the Guild-at-Large recommend for a 24" or larger monitor these days? I'm given to understand that Dell still makes a quality product, and they have a 27" Ultrasharp that looks pretty good (although two of them shipped will be over a grand, and that might be getting a bit too steep for my finances.)

Or maybe trying one of their 34" curved UltraSharps, and just go with a single monitor. Or sell a kidney and get two 34s. 😁

I'd have to redesign my desk... like, a LOT... but hey, I was planning on doing that anyway. 😋

Any other options or insight? I'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest, I'd rather spend a bit more on a good brand if i can get another decade out of it. (Or them.)

Doc.
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Joined: January 20th, 2015, 7:35 pm

April 15th, 2018, 4:24 am #2

I have been using two of the these for the past 5 or 6 years.  I have been extremely happen with them both running at 1920x1080.  I generally play mmo and first person shoot'um ups with Flight Sim 10 for good measure.  I also do a lot of heaving coding on my main one (Visual Studio web, mobile, database with random other stuff thrown in from time to time) and the other for testing and what not.



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Joined: March 8th, 2004, 11:48 pm

April 15th, 2018, 5:04 am #3

I usually buy an Asus monitor. 

If you get a huge monitor you can mount it to the ceiling and work from a recliner. Just don't be under it when an earthquake hits.
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Joined: October 24th, 2014, 10:51 pm

April 15th, 2018, 5:49 am #4

DocsMachine wrote: One of my three monitors, a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, which I think I bought back in, like, 2006, is apparently starting to die.

What's happening is that it doesn't want to 'wake up'. First thing in the morning, when I boot up, it stays black. I first thought it was a PC problem and rebooted, at which point it all came up properly, but a couple days later, it started doing it when trying to 'wake up' after idling for a while.

I found out I can hit the power button on the monitor and it'll pop back up, and once up, it appears to stay up. And that's the only problem- no ghosting, no dead pixels, no dark areas, no burn-in, etc. Really, this thing's been rock solid for over a decade.

Won't affect my work, of course, as I have the other two monitors if this one dies entirely, and I have half a dozen more- albeit smaller- ones floating around here I can swap to if needed.

However, I'm kind of thinking it might be time to pick up a new one, or even a new set if I can get a good price for two. What would the Guild-at-Large recommend for a 24" or larger monitor these days? I'm given to understand that Dell still makes a quality product, and they have a 27" Ultrasharp that looks pretty good (although two of them shipped will be over a grand, and that might be getting a bit too steep for my finances.)

Or maybe trying one of their 34" curved UltraSharps, and just go with a single monitor. Or sell a kidney and get two 34s. 😁

I'd have to redesign my desk... like, a LOT... but hey, I was planning on doing that anyway. 😋

Any other options or insight? I'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest, I'd rather spend a bit more on a good brand if i can get another decade out of it. (Or them.)

Doc.
Power supply capacitors. Sounds like one (or most likely more) has finally boiled off to the point of no longer working; it's from that era of widespread capacitor rot. Search for the monitor's part # with "capacitor kit" and it should pop up some places that sell the proper set of caps for the power supply.
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Joined: October 24th, 2014, 10:51 pm

April 15th, 2018, 5:54 am #5

As far as buying a monitor though, I gave up and just bought a 4K flatscreen TV. 42" LG.
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April 15th, 2018, 6:52 am #6

themadkansan wrote:Power supply capacitors. Sounds like one (or most likely more) has finally boiled off to the point of no longer working; it's from that era of widespread capacitor rot. Search for the monitor's part # with "capacitor kit" and it should pop up some places that sell the proper set of caps for the power supply.
That sounds possible. I dealt with a few Dell monitors of that era that had that issue. In my case I just ordered the caps piecemeal off mouser or digikey or something. I forget which. 

Buying a new monitor might be the better part of valor in this case though. Lord knows the last thing any of us need is more projects that we don't actually care about. 😅
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

April 15th, 2018, 9:01 am #7

Steampunk- whatever you linked to didn't show up, at least for me.
If you get a huge monitor you can mount it to the ceiling and work from a recliner. Just don't be under it when an earthquake hits.
-There have been times I've thought of a recliner with an integrated PC. Problem there is I'd likely never get out of it. 😁 And I already spend four to six hours a day in front of this damn thing...
Power supply capacitors. Sounds like one (or most likely more) has finally boiled off to the point of no longer working; it's from that era of widespread capacitor rot. Search for the monitor's part # with "capacitor kit" and it should pop up some places that sell the proper set of caps for the power supply.
-I'm not sure it's a power supply problem, the monitor doesn't "shut off", it's just dark. I was thinking more along the lines of the bulbs (or whatever) that illuminate the screen. If it happens again in the morning, I'll try to remember the old flashlight trick- see if the image is there, just unable to be seen without the backlights.
As far as buying a monitor though, I gave up and just bought a 4K flatscreen TV. 42" LG.
-That's bigger than I'd want, and I don't really have proper room for it, the way my desk is laid out. 😁

I'm kinda leaning toward a pair of those 27s. The WACOM tablet is a high-resolution (not 4K) 27" monitor, and I like the size. Problem is, that'll likely be over $1,100 including shipping, probably closer to $1,250, and that's just too big a chunk of change right now. (I'm trying to save up for a CNC machine.)
Buying a new monitor might be the better part of valor in this case though. Lord knows the last thing any of us need is more projects that we don't actually care about.
-Yeah, that's pretty much what I had in mind. I wasn't really looking to try and fix it, it's basically spring out there and that means my workload is fixing to increase logarithmically. I bought this back when 24s were the biggest and bestest (apart from the fabulously expensive 30" Apple Cinema displays) and with a hot coupon, it still cost me nearly a thousand bucks.

But, it's also given me well over a decade of daily, each-day-EVERY-day use, with pretty much zero problems. No dead pixels- still!- no burn-in, no ghosting, no lag, etc. 'Course, I don't game on it and rarely even just watch a movie with it, so it's not like I'm really taxing the system, but still, if I have to set it aside, it's earned it's retirement.

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April 15th, 2018, 11:36 am #8

I'm a cheap person, I'd try the caps before I gave Dell $1000.00.
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April 15th, 2018, 2:39 pm #9

themadkansan wrote: As far as buying a monitor though, I gave up and just bought a 4K flatscreen TV. 42" LG.
I bought a Vizio M43 4K tv a couple years ago that doubles as a monitor in my computer room, and it's great for CAD, gaming, etc., as well as a TV for cable and streaming video.It also displays large Excel spreadsheets very clearly, which is something the conference room projectors seem to have trouble with...(We're trying to convince TPTB that we need a 65" or larger 4K TV in my engineering office for     meetings, since we don't have enough conference rooms.) 
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April 15th, 2018, 2:46 pm #10

Robotek wrote:
themadkansan wrote: As far as buying a monitor though, I gave up and just bought a 4K flatscreen TV. 42" LG.
I bought a Vizio M43 4K tv a couple years ago that doubles as a monitor in my computer room, and it's great for CAD, gaming, etc., as well as a TV for cable and streaming video.It also displays large Excel spreadsheets very clearly, which is something the conference room projectors seem to have trouble with...(We're trying to convince TPTB that we need a 65" or larger 4K TV in my engineering office for     meetings, since we don't have enough conference rooms.) 
Of course, you have to have a computer or graphics card that will support the higher resolution to get the full benefit, and at least an HDMI output, as many of the new monitors no longer have a VGA input.
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