The Great DAF PAG-trekker thread!

The Great DAF PAG-trekker thread!

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May 29th, 2005, 1:30 pm #1

In the 1938-1940 period the Dutch Army ordered a large number of light artillery tractors or Anti-tank gun tractors from DAF (Van Doorne's Aanhangwagenfabriek) in Eindhoven. In Dutch these were called PAG-trekkers, PAG meaning "pantserafweergeschut". DAF built these on both Ford and Chevrolet chassis by converting them to four wheel drive and adding specialised bodywork with 3 rows of seats for 6 crewmembers and ammo storage in the back.

I have never come across a total number ordered or produced, but since they were used to tow the Dutch Boehler 47mm anti-tank guns - of which there were approx. 350 - such could be the number built by DAF: around 350. There are also reports of the vehicles being used as staffcars or personnel vehicles, but that may have been exceptions.
On top of that several versions seem to have been built, possibly 7 or 8.

Time to take a better look at this vehicle. Bart Vanderveen wrote extensively about the DAF Ford and Chevrolet connections in his Wheels and Tracks magazine, so that's where I base this first step on. But even he is not clear about everything. Recently a thread at the Maple Leaf UP Forums delt with PAG-trekkers: http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showt ... eadid=2478

Certain is that the PAG-trekkers were built in several batches, differing by model year but also bodywork. Perhaps the ordering of the batches to be built was synchronised with the completion of orders for the anti-tank guns?

I will start two-subthreads, one for Ford versions and one for Chevrolet.

Enjoy and be welcome to post your PAG-trekker pictures for precise identification!
Nuyt
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May 29th, 2005, 1:40 pm #2

The forst batch of 56 units was ordered in mid-1938. Note the rather small ammo-locker in the rear and extra ammo cases on the running boards. This is the 1938 Ford/DAF 81Y small locker type:

That same year another batch was built with a larger ammo-locker, still on a Ford/DAF 81Y basis:

Similar bodies were built on 1939 and 1940 chassis. These were Ford/DAF 91Y and 01Y respectively, seen here in German service after 1940:

It seems a different version was also built on 1939 chassis with just 4 seats and very large ammo storage. This type was probably used to tow the gun AND a special limber, carrying the gunshield and more ammo. Here seen in German service on the Eastern Front:

Any comments/corrections welcome!
Nuyt
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May 29th, 2005, 1:58 pm #3

In the 1938-1940 period the Dutch Army ordered a large number of light artillery tractors or Anti-tank gun tractors from DAF (Van Doorne's Aanhangwagenfabriek) in Eindhoven. In Dutch these were called PAG-trekkers, PAG meaning "pantserafweergeschut". DAF built these on both Ford and Chevrolet chassis by converting them to four wheel drive and adding specialised bodywork with 3 rows of seats for 6 crewmembers and ammo storage in the back.

I have never come across a total number ordered or produced, but since they were used to tow the Dutch Boehler 47mm anti-tank guns - of which there were approx. 350 - such could be the number built by DAF: around 350. There are also reports of the vehicles being used as staffcars or personnel vehicles, but that may have been exceptions.
On top of that several versions seem to have been built, possibly 7 or 8.

Time to take a better look at this vehicle. Bart Vanderveen wrote extensively about the DAF Ford and Chevrolet connections in his Wheels and Tracks magazine, so that's where I base this first step on. But even he is not clear about everything. Recently a thread at the Maple Leaf UP Forums delt with PAG-trekkers: http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showt ... eadid=2478

Certain is that the PAG-trekkers were built in several batches, differing by model year but also bodywork. Perhaps the ordering of the batches to be built was synchronised with the completion of orders for the anti-tank guns?

I will start two-subthreads, one for Ford versions and one for Chevrolet.

Enjoy and be welcome to post your PAG-trekker pictures for precise identification!
Nuyt
I did not find any reference to Chevrolet 1938 chassis being used, just 1939 and 1940.
Here's a PAG-trekker on Chevrolet 1/2 ton KC chassis, exceptional as all other Ford and Chevrolet PAG-0trekkers were built on 1 ton chassis. Was it just a prototype?
It has just 4 seats and a large ammo locker:

More common however seems this 1939 Chevrolet/DAF JE type of which there seem to be many pictures:

I did not find any pictures of 1940 models.
Any comments welcome!
Nuyt
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May 29th, 2005, 4:37 pm #4

In the 1938-1940 period the Dutch Army ordered a large number of light artillery tractors or Anti-tank gun tractors from DAF (Van Doorne's Aanhangwagenfabriek) in Eindhoven. In Dutch these were called PAG-trekkers, PAG meaning "pantserafweergeschut". DAF built these on both Ford and Chevrolet chassis by converting them to four wheel drive and adding specialised bodywork with 3 rows of seats for 6 crewmembers and ammo storage in the back.

I have never come across a total number ordered or produced, but since they were used to tow the Dutch Boehler 47mm anti-tank guns - of which there were approx. 350 - such could be the number built by DAF: around 350. There are also reports of the vehicles being used as staffcars or personnel vehicles, but that may have been exceptions.
On top of that several versions seem to have been built, possibly 7 or 8.

Time to take a better look at this vehicle. Bart Vanderveen wrote extensively about the DAF Ford and Chevrolet connections in his Wheels and Tracks magazine, so that's where I base this first step on. But even he is not clear about everything. Recently a thread at the Maple Leaf UP Forums delt with PAG-trekkers: http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showt ... eadid=2478

Certain is that the PAG-trekkers were built in several batches, differing by model year but also bodywork. Perhaps the ordering of the batches to be built was synchronised with the completion of orders for the anti-tank guns?

I will start two-subthreads, one for Ford versions and one for Chevrolet.

Enjoy and be welcome to post your PAG-trekker pictures for precise identification!
Nuyt
The Definitieve Aanschaffingsplan (definitive purchase plan) of 1939 [1] called for the following numbers and types of pag-trekkers:

- Infantry Regiments: 288 Chevrolet (48 x 6)
48 Infantry Regiments were present, each of which was supposed to have an AT company with 6 guns. The lower-numbered regiments 1 - 22 RI, Regiment Jagers and Regiment Grenadiers did have such an AT company, while only a few of the higher-numbered regiments 23 - 46 RI did have an AT company.

- Brigades, Divisions and Grensbataljons (GB = Border battalions): 264 Ford V8 (of which 120 were present already).
At the time of the German invasion, the following divisional and GB pag-units were available:
8 divisional AT companies, 6 pieces each: 8 x 6 = 48 guns;
48 GB AT platoons (each GB had two platoons, of two pieces each): 48x2 = 96;
Total 48 + 96 = 144.

However, the divisional AT assets were to be expanded to a divisional AT battalion of 3 x 6 = 18 pieces (total 8 x 18 = 144). Combining that with the abovementioned number for the Grensbataljons yields 240 AT pieces. This leaves 24 trucks unaccounted for, they may have been planned for Brigade AT-coys (4 x 6 = 24) as 'brigades' are explicitly mentioned.

- Lichte Troepen ('light troops', the cavalry and cyclists): 48 Ford with fourwheel drive.
16 with 4 Regimenten Huzaren (cavalry regiments 1 - 4 RH had 4 pags each; 5 RH didn't have any);
8 with 2 Regimenten Huzaren Motorrijders (motorcycle regiments 1 and 2, with 4 pags each);
24 with 6 Bataljons Wielrijders (cyclist battalions in 1 and 2 RW; each RW consisted of three battalions, with 4 pags per battalion).

Note that the abovementioned figures indicate the planned quantities and the main AT units in the field in May 1940. Some more AT units formed from depot troops were available, while pag-trekkers sometimes were put to other uses as well (I-KRA used pag-trekkers for its signals unit).

[1] Departement van Defensie, Geheim Litt P39 ('s Gravenhage, 3 februari 1939). Onderwerp: trekker materieel. (Nationaal Archief 2.13.65 - Inv.No.68)
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May 29th, 2005, 5:10 pm #5

I did not find any reference to Chevrolet 1938 chassis being used, just 1939 and 1940.
Here's a PAG-trekker on Chevrolet 1/2 ton KC chassis, exceptional as all other Ford and Chevrolet PAG-0trekkers were built on 1 ton chassis. Was it just a prototype?
It has just 4 seats and a large ammo locker:

More common however seems this 1939 Chevrolet/DAF JE type of which there seem to be many pictures:

I did not find any pictures of 1940 models.
Any comments welcome!
Nuyt

One of the pag-trekkers (with Lewis MG) with the Dutch troops in the UK.

Source: <a href="http://www.fuseliers.net</a" target="_new">http://www.fuseliers.net</a>
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May 29th, 2005, 7:31 pm #6

The Definitieve Aanschaffingsplan (definitive purchase plan) of 1939 [1] called for the following numbers and types of pag-trekkers:

- Infantry Regiments: 288 Chevrolet (48 x 6)
48 Infantry Regiments were present, each of which was supposed to have an AT company with 6 guns. The lower-numbered regiments 1 - 22 RI, Regiment Jagers and Regiment Grenadiers did have such an AT company, while only a few of the higher-numbered regiments 23 - 46 RI did have an AT company.

- Brigades, Divisions and Grensbataljons (GB = Border battalions): 264 Ford V8 (of which 120 were present already).
At the time of the German invasion, the following divisional and GB pag-units were available:
8 divisional AT companies, 6 pieces each: 8 x 6 = 48 guns;
48 GB AT platoons (each GB had two platoons, of two pieces each): 48x2 = 96;
Total 48 + 96 = 144.

However, the divisional AT assets were to be expanded to a divisional AT battalion of 3 x 6 = 18 pieces (total 8 x 18 = 144). Combining that with the abovementioned number for the Grensbataljons yields 240 AT pieces. This leaves 24 trucks unaccounted for, they may have been planned for Brigade AT-coys (4 x 6 = 24) as 'brigades' are explicitly mentioned.

- Lichte Troepen ('light troops', the cavalry and cyclists): 48 Ford with fourwheel drive.
16 with 4 Regimenten Huzaren (cavalry regiments 1 - 4 RH had 4 pags each; 5 RH didn't have any);
8 with 2 Regimenten Huzaren Motorrijders (motorcycle regiments 1 and 2, with 4 pags each);
24 with 6 Bataljons Wielrijders (cyclist battalions in 1 and 2 RW; each RW consisted of three battalions, with 4 pags per battalion).

Note that the abovementioned figures indicate the planned quantities and the main AT units in the field in May 1940. Some more AT units formed from depot troops were available, while pag-trekkers sometimes were put to other uses as well (I-KRA used pag-trekkers for its signals unit).

[1] Departement van Defensie, Geheim Litt P39 ('s Gravenhage, 3 februari 1939). Onderwerp: trekker materieel. (Nationaal Archief 2.13.65 - Inv.No.68)
Thanks for that terrific reply, Rogier!
Now I understand Chevrolets and Fords serving with different units.
I guess there were at least 150-180 Chevrolets (25-30 regiments x 6 pags) and around 200 Fords by 1940? Makes 350-380 PAG-trekkers...
Greetings,
Nuyt
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June 2nd, 2005, 4:20 pm #7

The forst batch of 56 units was ordered in mid-1938. Note the rather small ammo-locker in the rear and extra ammo cases on the running boards. This is the 1938 Ford/DAF 81Y small locker type:

That same year another batch was built with a larger ammo-locker, still on a Ford/DAF 81Y basis:

Similar bodies were built on 1939 and 1940 chassis. These were Ford/DAF 91Y and 01Y respectively, seen here in German service after 1940:

It seems a different version was also built on 1939 chassis with just 4 seats and very large ammo storage. This type was probably used to tow the gun AND a special limber, carrying the gunshield and more ammo. Here seen in German service on the Eastern Front:

Any comments/corrections welcome!
Nuyt
posted on the AXIS-history forum:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=78752
Enjoy,
Nuyt
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June 6th, 2005, 7:04 pm #8

I did not find any reference to Chevrolet 1938 chassis being used, just 1939 and 1940.
Here's a PAG-trekker on Chevrolet 1/2 ton KC chassis, exceptional as all other Ford and Chevrolet PAG-0trekkers were built on 1 ton chassis. Was it just a prototype?
It has just 4 seats and a large ammo locker:

More common however seems this 1939 Chevrolet/DAF JE type of which there seem to be many pictures:

I did not find any pictures of 1940 models.
Any comments welcome!
Nuyt
Some months ago MR Georges Mazy sent me this picture of a Chevrolet/DAF in German service
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June 9th, 2005, 5:27 pm #9

I did not find any reference to Chevrolet 1938 chassis being used, just 1939 and 1940.
Here's a PAG-trekker on Chevrolet 1/2 ton KC chassis, exceptional as all other Ford and Chevrolet PAG-0trekkers were built on 1 ton chassis. Was it just a prototype?
It has just 4 seats and a large ammo locker:

More common however seems this 1939 Chevrolet/DAF JE type of which there seem to be many pictures:

I did not find any pictures of 1940 models.
Any comments welcome!
Nuyt
on E-bay auction found by Lorenzo Tonioli of Italy:

Looks like a Chevrolet?
Mille grazie Lorenzo!
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June 17th, 2005, 7:49 pm #10

In the 1938-1940 period the Dutch Army ordered a large number of light artillery tractors or Anti-tank gun tractors from DAF (Van Doorne's Aanhangwagenfabriek) in Eindhoven. In Dutch these were called PAG-trekkers, PAG meaning "pantserafweergeschut". DAF built these on both Ford and Chevrolet chassis by converting them to four wheel drive and adding specialised bodywork with 3 rows of seats for 6 crewmembers and ammo storage in the back.

I have never come across a total number ordered or produced, but since they were used to tow the Dutch Boehler 47mm anti-tank guns - of which there were approx. 350 - such could be the number built by DAF: around 350. There are also reports of the vehicles being used as staffcars or personnel vehicles, but that may have been exceptions.
On top of that several versions seem to have been built, possibly 7 or 8.

Time to take a better look at this vehicle. Bart Vanderveen wrote extensively about the DAF Ford and Chevrolet connections in his Wheels and Tracks magazine, so that's where I base this first step on. But even he is not clear about everything. Recently a thread at the Maple Leaf UP Forums delt with PAG-trekkers: http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showt ... eadid=2478

Certain is that the PAG-trekkers were built in several batches, differing by model year but also bodywork. Perhaps the ordering of the batches to be built was synchronised with the completion of orders for the anti-tank guns?

I will start two-subthreads, one for Ford versions and one for Chevrolet.

Enjoy and be welcome to post your PAG-trekker pictures for precise identification!
Nuyt
Apparently not all PAG-trekkers were 4x4 vehicles, as I always thought. Bart Vanderveen's various publications are ambivalent on the matter. Sometimes he refers to 4x4 as an option to the PAG-trekker series. Also in Rogier's post special mention is made of 4x4 Fords...what about the others?
Hmm, maybe just the later (Ford) model years were indeed 4x4?
The next strange thing is that the DAF publications I have (two DAF Museum brochures and the book by Martin Wallast) do not mention the PAG-trekkers at all. Because they were mostly just bodywork conversions?



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