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Stonehenge Ocarina

pandorado100
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December 25th, 2013, 3:51 am #1

While browsing eBay I spotted some ocarinas by a maker I'm not familiar with--Stonehenge Ocarina. Anybody here familiar with them?

I think he mostly sells pendants and sweet potato Zelda replicas at Renaissance fairs so I'm not sure of their quality but he has some nice looking glazes. It's all very rustic looking.

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Update: His name is Alex Betsill and he's based in Lindsay, Oklahoma. He says he's been making ocarinas for someone else for the last 7 years but recently decided to form his own business. His goal is to eventually make a fully chromatic concert tuned 12 hole ocarina, capable of playing in symphony orchestras, according to his Kickstarter page.


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I think I'll invite him to sign up on TON as a maker. It will be great exposure and introduce him to the community.
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Wollemi Pine
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December 25th, 2013, 5:49 am #2

I'd buy one if they made the ocarinas out of the actual Stonehenge stone. :)
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Jack Campin
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December 25th, 2013, 2:37 pm #3

I wonder who the "someone else" was?

The glazes look nice but otherwise they don't look like a quality product and they don't suggest that all he needs is some cash from Kickstarter to match what Pacchioni, Menaglio and Kuolong make.
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Stonehenge Alex
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December 25th, 2013, 3:19 pm #4

Just to add to the conversation as I am the one being discussed. Thank you Pandorado 100 for the recommendation to join this group. I do live in Lindsay, OK but most of business is done at Renaissance Festivals and Comic Cons. I am currently selling at Scarborough Renaissance Festival and the Arizona Renaissance Festival. I used to work for John Coiner Pottery as the main Ocarina maker where I have made and sold over 15,000 ocarinas. That is who the "someone else" is.
I am unsure as to whether I will continue to use this site as the reception so far doesn't seem constructive or hospitable. As Jack seems to be very judgmental as to quality and expertise without owning or playing one of my ocarinas. The are all tuned to A 440 spot on. I will literally stand ON my work. They have some of the best sound out of an ocarina I have played (and that's not just tooting my own horn I own STL, songbird, ocarinas and others). I am a musician, and I play over 20 different instruments. I know quality when I play it, and I was taught to never make crap. My operation recently went from a 8000 sq ft professional pottery studio to a converted laundry room with homemade equipment (which I designed and built). I am very proud of my work and very proud to have sold so many to fans of the Zelda game.
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December 25th, 2013, 4:11 pm #5

Welcome to TON Alex

Please don't judge the rest of us by Jack's remarks. He is a very knowledgeable man and experienced musician but diplomacy has never been his watchword. <nudge to Jack>

You should stick around if you have time. We have other ocarina makers that visit here such as Casper, Johann Rotter, Kuolong Pan, Charlie Hind, Giorgio Cataldi, Geotjakra and others who I hope will forgive me if I forget to mention their names.

This is a great place to post updates on your work and pictures of your latest ocarinas. TON is perhaps the largest and most active ocarina forum on the Internet. We love to hear about new makers and to discuss the pros and cons of ocarinas. We are also generally very supportive. I hope you will give us the chance to show you that.
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December 25th, 2013, 7:43 pm #6

Your ocarinas look great to me. The only reason Jack said those things is because they're pendants and he doesn't like those. If they were transverse he probably would've stopped at the nice glaze comment. But Jack is very knowledgeable so don't discount everything he says.

Since you want to make a transverse, I look forward to seeing that as well. I love your glazes.
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December 25th, 2013, 9:13 pm #7

wrote:The only reason Jack said those things is because they're pendants
No it wasn't. They're crude and lumpy, not much better than Daniel's. I have a Langley pendant and I know what a well-finished one looks like.

There are several makers on this forum who've made a lot less than 15,000 ocarinas and got a far better finished product. And they're not asking for Kickstarter cash.
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December 25th, 2013, 11:34 pm #8

YOU have a Langley pendant, Jack? I'm surprised you haven't chucked it out or turned it into a cat toy. :)
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December 26th, 2013, 3:53 am #9

Welcome to TON Stonehenge.

I don't know anything about the pendants so I won't pass any kind of judgment on your work, and I wouldn't do that to any ocarina without actually playing it. As for jack I just try to ignore him like I do any bully.
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December 26th, 2013, 3:01 pm #10

I have seen your products on eBay as well, and they seem... nice, to say the least.

I agree that the glazes are good (I like the pistachio one myself). I see nothing wrong with pendants myself, even though I own few and happen to prefer other styles (particularly transverse). Honestly, they look fine, and you seem to have the experience and personality to make fine pieces. I will admit, they're not like the makers mentioned above, but comparing you to makers of world renown is simply unfair. Besides, their shape in general shouldn't affect their sound, and it seems that you make them in such a fashion on purpose. Tell me, do you use a mold, or do you make pendants by hand (as they're simple enough to not need a mold)?

And I apologize about the initial impression which you received. Most of the people here are kind and welcoming, but... there do happen to be some members who prefer to do away with such a facade and bluntly deliver their opinions (case in point). Well, I hope you stay with us, and I look forward to seeing your future work.
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