Mr. Sheridan. I love making the Bethleham Car Works models and will get in touch with him on these. For diagrams NHRTIA Standing Data Sheet 5.5247 (1976) Yankee Clipper Dining Cars, by Alvin A. Lawrence shows both sides, one end and the interior layout with dimensions. It also has the color schemes, decorative items, and that ice-air conditioning system was used. Only two were used on the Yankee Clipper, Dreadnaught (5247) and John Bertram (5248). These were different from the dining cars in the 5239 - 5246 series. Looking at the end and side views, the 5247/5248 were one and 7/16 inch taller with the different vent configurations, different roof widths and peaked end which differ from the end side views of the 5239-5246 in NHRTIA Dtanding Data Sheet 5.5239 Diners 5239 - 5246 (1976) by A.A. Lawrence. These drawings also show different underbody details. When you compare those diagrams with the one in NHRTIA's New Haven Railroads Passenger Car Diagrams: Revised Edition (1975) you will see that the official New Haven company diagrams dated October 27, 1938 are different from Mr. Lawrence's diagrams published in 1976. The book shows different ends and roof dimensions. The cars series have differences on the dining end starting from the end to the first window being 5 1/4" different, the spaces between the windows are 12 1/2" different, the space between the end window and the first aisle window is 5 1/4" different, and between the last window and the access door is 5 3/4" different, yet both series have the same 43' 4" dining area. The rest of the sides are the same in layout and dimensions. The New Haven Railroads Passenger Car Diagrams book also shows a diagram for diner 5238, however its window configuration is way different, and if someone wants to model it, they should buy one of the Bethleham Cars Works models and modify it with New England Rail Service products. My question is, Are you going to design only the two Yankee Clipper dining cars, the eight other heaveyweight steel dining cars, or both? Regarding pictures, there are a bunch in various books and Shoreliners, but I haven't taken the time to look for any right now to reference. I don't even get a chance to attend the RPM at St Louis that is less than four hours from here; and while I would rather attend the RPM at Enfield because there will be more models germaine to my interests, I won't be driving two days to attend. If you want, I will go through all my books and Shoreliners and get you a list of pages for references.
Mr. Abramson. I just searched the Trains Stations Products site, and currently they don't offer the 61-NO trucks. That doesn't mean they didn't, just that they don't now.
I hope this helps this drift along.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr. member #3067
3668 Lone Valley Road
Calvert City, Kentucky 42029-8322
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr. member #3967