What's the Preferred Next Rapido NH LT WT Stainless Steel Car?

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michael78651
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May 29th, 2017, 10:32 am #111

Why was I thinking "911" for the car number? Oh well...

Anyway, thanks for the information about options that are available out there for the combine, and for the information on the grill car!
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Statkowski
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May 29th, 2017, 11:11 am #112

I assume there's no suitable model available to represent Narrows Light?
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Tom Curtin
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May 29th, 2017, 1:05 pm #113

No, but a successful kitbash can be done.  Narrows Light was originally a 36 chair parlor, and a heavyweight Pullman could be "resected"  (if I may coin a term) to fit that rather simple window arrangement.  I am currently working on doing one in O scale.  There's no 36 chair parlor is O either, but I acquired a 34 chair parlor which is as close as you can get.
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haksawjoes
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May 29th, 2017, 1:27 pm #114

 There is no suitable model for the "Narrows Light" that I know of in HO, it is a kit-bash. Retired engineer Pete McLachlan kindly shared mid 50's photos he had of both sides of the car, using those photos I was able to build a fairly accurate model of it by starting with one of the Branchline sleeper kits when they were available, I don't remember which kit. 
First the sleeper had to be converted to the correct Pullman parlor plan #. This was done by removing the window band from both sleeper sides then cutting out enough of the correct style windows from other donor sleeper sides and grafting them into new window bands then re-installing them back into the sides.

To make a roof with the correct AC duct configuration two different sleeper roofs had to be grafted together. The clerestory of the sleepers roofs are to narrow to represent a correct parlor roof, today maybe starting with a Walthers parlor would be better?. The roof vent was scratch built and all other vents in the clerestory came from other donor cars. After the window band conversion, all the windows that needed to be covered as per prototype on the grill side were blanked out.

Pete's photos were used to get the under-body details correct.

Several years ago pictures of the interior were posted on this forum, these were used to build the interior of the model.

In The Speedwitch Vol 6, Issue 1, page 21, the top photo is the grill side of the "Narrows Light" shown at Danbury. You may need a magnifying glass though.

Joe Smith # 1253
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rsullivan
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May 29th, 2017, 3:38 pm #115

While there aren't any production models for the "Narrows Light" that I'm aware either, there are some products that make the kit-bash easier without cannibalizing another car for parts. New England Rail Services makes styrene parts that match the Pullman configurations for windows, doors, vents, a/c ducts, and underbody equipment. They also produce Pullman plan number specific conversion kits. They fit perfectly in the Rivarossi, IHC, and Branchline Pullman 12-1 and 14 section sleepers. I have also used them to change some Bachmann cars, but the window section on the Bachmann cars is a little bit too short for a perfect fit and requires a little work. The roof a/c duct can be cut down to whatever length is needed to match a plan or photo, and the end caps fit right in place. Again, on the Bachmann cars, the roof is a little bit too low and requires some work to fit the duct correctly. I don't have any Walther's heavyweight sleeper or parlor cars, so I can't say how well the parts fit. The Branchline kits are still available through Atlas Model Railroad Co. They currently offer cars in the 8-1-2, 10-1-2, 12-1, 14 section, and 6-3 configurations. All are decorated, but the sides and ends are flat and separate so it is easy to modify, strip and paint them. I have a bunch on hand, and all the windows, vents, and a/c ducts I need to change the sleepers into coaches via the butterflies to caterpillars concept using a Shoreliner article of that same name. Some things that have to be obtained to have the correct interior are interior lighting, seats, and partitions for the restrooms.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
3668 Lone Valley Road
Calvert City, Kentucky 42029-8322
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Tom Curtin
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May 29th, 2017, 5:54 pm #116

I gladly insert an endorsement that Joe did an excellent HO scale job with this!!
Tom.
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Statkowski
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May 29th, 2017, 9:10 pm #117

Photo or diagram of the Narrows Light, anyone?
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haksawjoes
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May 30th, 2017, 7:47 am #118

Narrows Light- Pullman parlor plan #3916B- converted to diner with electric kitchen 8/3/53- NH #2056-condemned 4/65- #W322 9/68 pictures?
There was a series of posts on this forum 1/16/06 "Narrows Light-DUDLEY-QUINCY et all". This had some good photos of the interior of the Narrows Light that was  used to build the model interior.

 Pete McLachlan photos of both sides of the Narrows Light.

Joe Smith #1253
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Tom Curtin
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May 30th, 2017, 8:03 am #119

Hey Joe, thanks so much for posting those photos --- you made my day (and my day is just getting started)
Tom 
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haksawjoes
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May 30th, 2017, 9:20 am #120

Tom, Glad I made your day. I specially like the Danbury photo, will try and recreate that photo on my layout.Have fun building your O scale version.Joe 
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