What's the Preferred Next Rapido NH LT WT Stainless Steel Car?

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May 25th, 2017, 12:51 am #101

According to the book "The New Haven Railroad in the Streamline Era" Cornfield Point #504 was a 14-Roomette, 4-Double Bedroom Sleeper, that was retired in 1968, sold to Jones Properties, sold to NdeM.
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May 25th, 2017, 12:57 am #102

Mr. Ed(nhhe52) and Mr. DBrion. I am not an expert on the cars or the names. I went to the site to look at the car and scrolled through the pictures. The end number was '504.' In the NHRTI's Passenger Car Diagram Book: Revised Edition (1975) the diagram for the stainless steel sheathed streamlined roomette sleeping cars 500 - 526, car 504 was named Cornfield Point. I went to the book to see what the name assigned to car 504 was and that was when I saw it was Cornfield Point. Wondering where it was, I googled it and found it was a community on the shoreline in Old Saybrook. Thanks for the New Haven history and Connecticut geography lessons.
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May 25th, 2017, 1:36 pm #103

RWC actually did a better job on the New Haven sleepers, at least on the Point series cars (I do not have examples of either the Beach or State cars). One thing they did nail, on all of their McGinnis cars, was the red-orange band. The contrast with the silver siding is, in my view, as accurate as it gets. This is how I remember the real cars, during '50s and '60s summer vacations on the Cape as a kid.

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May 25th, 2017, 3:01 pm #104

Mr. Sullivan,
Thanks for the info and enlightening me.  I had never heard of it either.
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May 26th, 2017, 11:44 pm #105

I know it's not a stainless car, I need two decent HW combines for the Berkshire Line.

For stainless, a grill car for the Berkshire Line Train 144. Wasn't the grill car #911 used for the Berkshire?
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May 27th, 2017, 5:46 am #106

Mr. michael78651. Regarding the decent HW combines. What I did back when Bachmann came out with their heavyweight series of passenger cars, I compared the lengths and windows in the local hobby shop with the diagrams in the NHRTIA's 1975 Passenger Car Diagram Book: Revised Edition. I thought they were close in to the rebuilt coaches in series 6700 - 6725 and 7000 - 7950, and baggage & smoker cars 6000 - 6009, being about two foot too long for the baggage & smoker at 79' verses 76' 8-5/8".  If you didn't mind a combined baggage & smoker little over seven foot too short for the 6100 - 6105 series you could use it for a stand in. The baggage door is in the wrong position on the models, so I cut the baggage door panel, and the next panel out of the car on both sides. I separated them into two pieces. I then secured them to the body in the correct positions. I changed the door on one to match a photo. I changed all the roof details and added the fresh air intake vent. The model has the wrong type of handbrake, so I removed the cast on one, and built one with styrene to represent a 'Lindstrom' ratchet handbrake on each end of the cars. I liked the NHRTI 1971 data sheet 5.11 painting and lettering diagram for "1955" shows the offical paint scheme, but there were other versions shown in photos. So I painted and lettered mine to match the photos to have the variation. That was about 26 years ago, and I seem to also recall having to do something with the windows. I'm not sure if I had to add a window or two, or remove one or two. The models are in a box waiting for the passenger trains to roll when I finish the layout (hopefully), so I can't get to them right now without unstacking all my Rapido boxes that are on top of them. If you really need me to, I will get to them later this week and examine to see what exactly I did to each and which car I numbered them with. If you are interested in trying this and can't find any, the hobby shop here has one in the consignment that is painted in UP for $20. I never expect either series to be produced, so I snapped those up and made the stand ins. I hope this helps.
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May 28th, 2017, 3:29 pm #107

michael78651 wrote:
For stainless, a grill car for the Berkshire Line Train 144. Wasn't the grill car #911 used for the Berkshire?
I think it was grill car #959.   (There was no #911).  In fact not only do I think that but the Passenger Train Consists for 1965 confirms it.  This would have been used from the time that the heavyweight Narrows  Light (2056) was retired around the end of 1964.  You would also see a grill car used in the earlier 1960's during periods when Narrows Light was in the shops for some reason.  However I do not remember the car number
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May 28th, 2017, 6:31 pm #108

The Grills were 950-964.  
 
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Statkowski
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May 28th, 2017, 7:44 pm #109

For a combine, Bethlehem Car Works advertises a 6100-series combine for $87.50 (Item #SP-62).

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May 28th, 2017, 7:59 pm #110

Mr. michael78651. I would definately follow Mr. Statkowski's recommendation for the Bethlehem Car Works 6100 - series combine for one of the six combined baggage & smokers of that series. I have several of their models of different types of cars. I like their details and accuracy, so you don't have to settle for a stand in. If you don't mind the extra two feet in length, you can still make a stand in for the ten cars in the 6000 - 6009 series baggage & smoker from one of the Bachmann models. Remember that it does require the minimum modifications I described, and I'm not sure if there isn't something else that needs to be done to the windows too. Hope this helps.
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