RS11 fuel tank question?

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RS11 fuel tank question?

flatcar99
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June 29th, 2018, 6:47 pm #1

With all the talk of rapidos Newhaven rs11s and fuel tanks. I was wondering when the new haven swapped out the fuels tanks? I know after they were delivered  they had trouble with the fuel mixxing with the water supply for passenger service.

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Peter R Ness
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June 29th, 2018, 7:34 pm #2

I think over the past years since this post maybe there are some answers available...I hope! dl-701-ders-5-fuel-water-tanks-t5539.html

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Statkowski
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June 29th, 2018, 10:14 pm #3

Flatcar, you're just bringing this up to give Jason Shron and company apoplexy, right?
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flatcar99
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June 30th, 2018, 10:06 am #4

Lol nope honest question to my understanding after the leaks were found the tanks were modified or drained and just used to carry fuel only making them freight only power at the time. Up til the rs11 rapido posting I never heard about the tanks being replaced all together.
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Statkowski
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June 30th, 2018, 3:15 pm #5

Well, thinking about it, seeing as how Rapido will be offering both fuel tank styles on its locomotive offerings, they may just have to include both the five-plug and six-plug styles for the New Haven models.
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Peter R Ness
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July 1st, 2018, 10:04 am #6

Hi Henry,

It's more that plug count - there are two tank styles, plus plugs and they were only changed when the unit needed it - so there is no clear-cut date period such as "after they were removed from passenger service" or "by 1961", etc.  Check the photos in the link I posted above for the time when I tore my own hair out on this topic.  Scroll down the first page before the photos start.   For Rapido, it will truly be by road number and some date, but the date will vary by the road number they choose....unless of course there are enough road numbers that kept the original tank through PC era - this may be possible as I think there were at least two units that kept the original tanks until 1966 (1402 and 1406). There may be three units (1400, 1404 and 1410) that had the same replacement tanks (all with six plugs) that are correct from ca.1958-9 until the end of the New Haven.  That would keep the tanks to only two styles and cover most if not all the service lives of the units.

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Peter
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Statkowski
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July 1st, 2018, 10:57 am #7

As previously mentioned, more or less, modeling the New Haven is enough to drive one to drink.  Which fuel tank, what unit, when - the gift that keeps on giving.

On the bright side, it appears all the roof fittings remained, even if no longer used.
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July 1st, 2018, 11:13 am #8

Peter, 
The following units made it onto the Penn Central roster with the 6 plug tanks:

1401-PC #7661
1402-PC #7662
1405-PC #7665
1406-PC #7566
1412-PC #7672
1414-PC #7674

All of these units also made it to Conrail. 
REF: PCHS's magazine Vol 11-Issue 3.

John
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July 1st, 2018, 5:39 pm #9

 I think the crew at Rapido said ( As  Delivered ) so a 5 plug tank or 3 & 2 how ever ya want to make it / call it. That is fine with me. Maybe at a later date they may make a separate tank But then being New Haven How did you Fix or model a better tank on your model or just say They won't notice  ?
 Would seam that what ever is made there will be a few bug's Like a 58 MPH FL 9 but an FP 9 that goes 100 ?? It will get worked out Smile  B happy
  Jim
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John Sheridan
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July 2nd, 2018, 8:16 am #10

Statkowski wrote: Flatcar, you're just bringing this up to give Jason Shron and company apoplexy, right?
Rapido is offering the RS-11 in "as delivered" in 1956 for this run.

It was discussed & they are well aware of the tank swap out. If there are other roads that had the same tank, then you will more than likely see it on other NH models. 
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