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January 25th, 2018, 12:50 pm #51

Chartreuse!  Interesting. 
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It must have been quite the sight in real life.  But they weren't black.  Will the Rapdio Yellow scheme then have chartreuse painted trucks?  :)

I've never seen a color photograph of the yellow scheme.  Do any exist?

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January 25th, 2018, 1:02 pm #52

Just finished watching the live announcement by both CEO Jason Shron and our Mr. Rapidobill on Trainworld's video feed. It peaked at 175 viewers from all over the world. Not just the EP-5's were covered, but also many other models. Jason stressed the need to pre-order since they sell out of all the models. This is definately a "snooze you loose" model. The video is a little over 52 minutes long, and you can still see it on the Trainworld's Facebook page in the video section. The EP-5 model by Rapido will be worth the money spent in my opinion. It is loaded with details all around.
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January 25th, 2018, 1:05 pm #53

Ed:
I believe there are shots of 372 in Marc Frattasio's book, and EP-5 Jets by NJ Int'l.
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January 25th, 2018, 1:22 pm #54

Thanks Rick:

I'll check that out as I believe I have a copy.

So then will Rapido's Yellow version have chartreuse trucks?

Thanks again,

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January 25th, 2018, 2:17 pm #55

Finally got to view the video. The Jet looks phenomenal just as a test shot. 
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January 25th, 2018, 6:37 pm #56

The yellow painted EP-5 had black trucks.  This isn't the greatest image, but its one of only two color photos of this unit that I am familiar with.  The other color photo was reproduced in my book "The New Haven Railroad in the McGinnis Era".  This image clearly shows that the trucks on this one-of-a-kind unit were black:



I have a copy of the railroad's painting & lettering diagram for the yellow unit and the only colors referenced are yellow, black, and white.

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January 25th, 2018, 6:39 pm #57

Thanks, Marc. Apparently what I read was incorrect. Sorry about that.
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January 25th, 2018, 7:33 pm #58

nhrhta wrote: The yellow painted EP-5 had black trucks.  This isn't the greatest image, but its one of only two color photos of this unit that I am familiar with.  The other color photo was reproduced in my book "The New Haven Railroad in the McGinnis Era".  This image clearly shows that the trucks on this one-of-a-kind unit were black:



I have a copy of the railroad's painting & lettering diagram for the yellow unit and the only colors referenced are yellow, black, and white.

Marc J. Frattasio
Great image, Marc, thanks:

So where did the idea of the green truck color come from?  The Cunningham book has two other color images of the yellow scheme which support the black trucks but also includes a graphic drawing with green trucks but nothing about the green trucks was noted.

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January 25th, 2018, 8:57 pm #59

Its hard to say where the story about the chartruse trucks originally came from.  I know that this was referenced in a feature article about the EP-5s published in the NHRHTA's Shoreliner magazine in 1977 and its possible that other people picked it up from there and then carried it along over the years.  

The photographic evidence certainly doesn't show it.  There are at least four different color photos that I know about that show the yellow painted unit at the GE plant.  In addition to the one that I posted above there's also the image that was in "The New Haven Railroad in the McGinnis Era" and two more (all four are different views) that were in the nice softcover book about the EP-5s that was published by N. J. International in 1991. All clearly show that the yellow unit had black trucks.

I've had access to a substantial amount of Herbert Matter's original design material for the McGinnis era design project on the New Haven Railroad, including some of the very earliest material, and everything I've ever seen was executed in combinations of blue, black, and white or yellow, black, and white or red, black, and white.  I've never seen a fourth color.

I strongly suggest that anybody who is interested in learning more about the design program that resulted in the color scheme for the EP-5s check out an article called "Noticed the New Haven?" that was published in the January/February 1956 issue of Industrial Design magazine.  Among the places that I know to have this issue in their files are the Boston Public Library and the Rhode Island School of Design.

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January 25th, 2018, 11:03 pm #60

nhrhta wrote: Its hard to say where the story about the chartruse trucks originally came from.  I know that this was referenced in a feature article about the EP-5s published in the NHRHTA's Shoreliner magazine in 1977 and its possible that other people picked it up from there and then carried it along over the years.  

The photographic evidence certainly doesn't show it.  There are at least four different color photos that I know about that show the yellow painted unit at the GE plant.  In addition to the one that I posted above there's also the image that was in "The New Haven Railroad in the McGinnis Era" and two more (all four are different views) that were in the nice softcover book about the EP-5s that was published by N. J. International in 1991. All clearly show that the yellow unit had black trucks.

I've had access to a substantial amount of Herbert Matter's original design material for the McGinnis era design project on the New Haven Railroad, including some of the very earliest material, and everything I've ever seen was executed in combinations of blue, black, and white or yellow, black, and white or red, black, and white.  I've never seen a fourth color.

I strongly suggest that anybody who is interested in learning more about the design program that resulted in the color scheme for the EP-5s check out an article called "Noticed the New Haven?" that was published in the January/February 1956 issue of Industrial Design magazine.  Among the places that I know to have this issue in their files are the Boston Public Library and the Rhode Island School of Design.

Marc J. Frattasio
Marc:

Thanks for the Information.

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