Rapido EP-5 "Jet"

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rsullivan
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October 5th, 2017, 10:31 am #31

Mr. Statkowski. Thanks for the explanation. Your descriptions of the going ons in the yard at Oak Point and on the rail between Bay Ridge and the east made me think you were inside the locomotive because they are so graphically presented. I think most people are ignorant on how far reaching the Army's Transportation Corps is, the equipment to include boats (ships really), railroad equipment, trucks, aircraft, experimental transportion devices, and probably a sub somewhere. I got to know more about rail operations with the 3rd Rail Detachment at Fort Eustis when one of ours was offered a reclassification in lieu after he ran after another and punched the wall locker he was hiding in. They had to cut the door apart to get his fist that went through the steel to his wrist. He was assigned to the rail maintenance crew, and they liked him because he could pull the ties out with the tongs by himself, they would shovel out the ballast, and he would shove the new tie in by himself. But, to avoid thread drift police action. There were never any EP-5's at the Transportation Museum at Fort Eustis, but I wonder if any of the Rapido models of the EP-5's will become display models at railroad and transportation museums?
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
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Statkowski
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October 5th, 2017, 11:35 am #32

I got to ride in an EP-5 or two, and a Rapido model might just find itself in a museum somewhere.  Unfortunately, none were saved.

Yes, screw up as an MP and get reclassified.  We had a motor transport operator in one unit that had been reclassified.

I watched these operate during my first trip to school at Fort Eustis:

US Army S-160.JPG And, just so we don't get too far away from the New Haven, US Army engines did operate on the New Haven, but not these ones.
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rsullivan
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October 5th, 2017, 12:12 pm #33

Mr. J.W. Swanberg covers the 38 loaners for road service in August and November of 1955 on page 489 of New Haven Power 1938 - 1968. The Army's were unique in some ways since 28 were custom made by Alco, six by EMD, and classified as MRS-1's rated at 1,600 horsepower with C-C trucks, and the last four were Alco RSD-1's (C-C truck versions of RS-1's). They were all returned to the Army between February and June of 1956. Maybrook received a Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton 400 horsepower diesel-hydraulic switcher named General Nathaniel Greene and numbered 1281 on February 14, 1956 and returned it to the Army on November 19, 1956. I think the low cabs made them look foreign, probably because it was to make the low clearances overseas. I think it is interesting that these black beauties were mingling with freshly painted McGinnis livery locomotive and the traditions greens and orange scheme diesels. I'm willing to bet dollar to donut some of those locomotives were at Fort Eustis when I was stationed there in 75-77. Since the EP-5's hit the New Haven rails in the early part of 1955, the EP-5's and Army locomotives had to serve side-by-side on occassion in the electrified zone. I haven't seen a picture of that happening yet.
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nhhe52
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January 4th, 2018, 9:22 pm #34

Any possibility of Rapido announcing production of the Jet at Springfield?

Ed
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January 4th, 2018, 9:26 pm #35

Ed:
Rapido announced the Jets at the 2016 reunion in Essex.
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nhhe52
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January 5th, 2018, 9:42 am #36

Richard Abramson wrote: Ed:
Rapido announced the Jets at the 2016 reunion in Essex.
Rick:

Not having been able to attended, what were the details of the announcement?
Order date?
Delivery date?
Model schemes?
Pricing?

Thanks,

Ed
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January 5th, 2018, 9:39 pm #37

Ed:
Rapido should have more info concerning the Jets soon. . .stay tuned!
Rick
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rivermanvt
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January 23rd, 2018, 8:09 am #38

nhhe52 wrote: Great!  Can't wait!

I'm in for at least "The Winner" and "The Loser".😀

Ed
To me the "winning" scheme would be in accordance with a drawing Bill Dulmaine has stated for some years that he had seen many years ago.
This was for the EP-5 in Dumaine green with dulux gold (yellow) cat whiskers. Some years ago when the NHRHTA Reunion was in Worcester IIRC 
I displayed an Alco Models EP-5 so painted. Still have it and still think it looks better than any "Matter Mess". It was displayed with a label stating 
"Patrick B. McWhoo? a/k/a Buck Dumaine's revenge!". During my high school years in Weston, Mass. Buck was a near neighbor and one could 
not ask for a better one. I really miss folks like Buck.

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January 23rd, 2018, 9:49 am #39

As much as I like the NH #13 Pullman Green and Dulux Gold striping, the Jets were striking in the Matter Scheme, not to mention its the only way we knew them on the NH. I personally would not refer to it as a "Matter Mess." It was very bold and advanced for 1954 and still endures 64 years later. I do feel however that some of its application(s) were not compatible with certain cars and/or engines. I don't think it looked very good on 0759 or the few American Flyer Cars that had that broad, white band below the windows. White is not a particularly good color for RR equipment from a maintenance standpoint.
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nhhe52
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January 23rd, 2018, 9:56 am #40

The EP-5 would have looked great in any paint in my opinion, except perhaps that yellow nosed PC scheme.  The Hunter Green, silver-striped Brooks Brothers scheme would have looked great as well.  Below are the McGinnis Loser and Standard schemes mentioned above. EP5 variation 001 crop.jpg
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