PA1s in freight service

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TomCurtin
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09 Nov 2017, 13:13 #21

Noel Weaver wrote: The NHRR could and occasionally did run FA's in passenger service. 
In one of the (I think) 1952 Engine Assignments an FA was assigned to Worcester-Providence passenger locals 575-576 (That was the train that, at the end of its life a few years later, drew a Mack railbus).  The consist in 1952 was an RPO and a coach.

If your Shoreliner library goes back to something like 1983 one of those issues has a full story on the FA's in which you will see a photo of the Providence-Worcester train.
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Ron High
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09 Nov 2017, 13:44 #22

Speaking of FAs I remember seeing some photos of single FAs in local freight service. One photo was if I remember correctly a Phil Hasting shot at South Worcester of the local leaving for Webster and Southbridge. Another shot  I have seen is the local in Webster with an FA. Both of these were had the FA in the orange green and pinstripe delivery scheme. These could have come in at night on M6 and then used for the daytime local freight. Perhaps because this was what was available for power .This would make good use of power that may have been sitting all day and would not leave Worcester until going out on train M7 that night.
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rsullivan
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09 Nov 2017, 14:12 #23

Mr. Derek. Did you appreciate the distinct cooling down of the interior temperature of the passenger cars from gare/station to gare/station after departing Gare Centrale/Central Station in Montréal/Montreal when riding on the Canadien National/Canadian National during June, July and August? Could you imagine the full translation of the complete corporate name of Compagnie des Chemins de fer Nationaux du Canada/Canadian National Railway Company on the railcars and locomotives, with the French on one side and the English on the other? Plus. I would have to look up how to spell it everytime I mentioned it on the Forum.
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Dave B
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09 Nov 2017, 15:26 #24

One of my favorite Shoreliner articles was written by Jack Swanburg (spelling ?).  He described a trip he took as a fireman in the 60s on a freight from Cedar Hill to Maybrook with 4 PAs for power.  He hopped from engine to engine adjusting (throttles ?, traction motors ?) to prevent the traction motors from frying.  PA issue in the 80s, if I remember correctly.
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TomCurtin
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09 Nov 2017, 15:42 #25

The story by Jack Swanberg that you recall so fondly is about his job in 1961 --- that was about the time the PA's entered some freight duties, including occasional work on the Maybrook.

Speaking of a memory of my own, the first sight I ever had of any PA anywhere was going through Danbury on one of those Maybrook jobs  At the time I was in high school and didn't know what the hell a PA was!   (After all, living in Danbury I got my fill of FAs, RS-3s, any number of passenger electrics, but would never have had reason to see a PA).  Watching it cross Wildman Street with its westbound freight I could see that something about them looked, well --- unfamiliar.  They were longer, and had those 6 wheel trucks.  Clearly a horse of a different color..........
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rfranzosa
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11 Nov 2017, 22:21 #26

My FA moment (may have told this story before, known to repeat myself)....

At Rocky Neck State Park in 1969 or 1970....   After a few nondescript passenger trains hauled by black PC E8-FL9 combo's, I heard the unmistakable sound of an Alco prime mover,  at high RPMs.  Through the cut came an FA1 (still in Alpert scheme) followed by a GP9B (still in PRR green) hauling a local freight.  I had never seen either before.  I went nuts...  my bikini clad girl friend looked up from the towel and said "Jeez, It's just a train..."

Rick Franzosa
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Derek Thompson
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12 Nov 2017, 12:30 #27

Just curious, Rick. Did the romance go downhill from there? 


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Statkowski
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12 Nov 2017, 14:57 #28

Thread drift = PAs then FAs then bikini-clad girlfriends.  Gotta love it.
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rsullivan
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12 Nov 2017, 17:21 #29

Here is my shot at a thread drift citation by the thread police. Page 23 of Mr. David R. Sweetland's New Haven - Color Pictorial - Volume Two: Central Connecticut & Rhode Island (2003) shows a crowded beach scene at Rocky Neck State Beach on July 1, 1956. No PA's, no freight, no FA's, no Mr. Franzosa (unless he is the young lad watching the waves in the center foreground) with bikini-clad girlfriend, and none of the branches mentioned earlier in the posts. Just two DER-4's CPA-24-5 C-Liners in Green and Yellow scheme with the lead three Pullman-Standard stainless steel streamlined parlor cars and a Pullman-Standard stainless steel streamlined diner with orange window bands and a happy crowd on a nice day for the beach. I plead "Nolo Contentere" regarding thread drift for I have always loved that particular picture for some reason, and had to mention it after Mr. Franzosa mentioned the beach at Rocky Neck State Park.
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rfranzosa
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12 Nov 2017, 23:25 #30

Derek Thompson wrote: Just curious, Rick. Did the romance go downhill from there? 


Derek Thompson
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Last date, I believe. ;-)
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