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Outside Braced Wooden Boxcar
- Joined: 05 Mar 2003, 09:39
I recently received, as a gift, a USA Trains G-Scale "New Haven" outside braced wooden boxcar.
I'm sure there are many, many things wrong with it.
- The car's number is 60586.
- Capacity is listed as 70,000 lbs.
- Inside length is listed as 30' 0".
- As can be seen, it has archbar trucks and truss rods.
- No build date/data or ARA/AAR class is shown.
So, what's RIGHT with the car?
And, what's WRONG with the car?
Lastly, would it be possible to bring the car close to something that the New Haven once had?
- Joined: 25 Nov 2007, 00:18
It seems to me that if the New Haven had cars like you pictured they would have been built in the 19th century and would have been gone by about the first decade of the 20th century. As you know from reading Shoreliner 35-3 and 35-4, the New Haven purchased more than 22,000 36-foot double sheathed box cars from 1903 to 1912 to replace about all their old box cars. The single sheathed outside braced cars the New Haven owned after that group were purchased were rebuilds of that same group.
Following is a shot of a single sheathed car I built from an HO scale Westerfield kit which is still available and authentic. Many of these cars were used in MOW service and some lasted until 1960; my 70135 was not MOW so it was gone by 1935. If I were you I would leave your car untouched -- it makes a good looking car even if it doesn't seem to match what the New Haven had. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
- Joined: 14 Dec 2016, 20:36
Mr. Statkowski. I looked at the pictures in various Shoreliners and New Haven Power 1938 - 1969 for what the freight cars that were used by the New Haven and predecessor lines. The five rungs for the ladder is very common, however, I didn't find one single-side box car in any of the pictures. They were all double-sided box cars. The short heights and lengths, undercarriage turnbuckle system, and archbar trucks were not uncommon. The paint scheme didn't appear to match the pictures, and none had dimensional data visible in the pre-1900 pictures. I agree with Mr. NH746ELO that they would have been 1838 - 1899 cars. But, while they may have existed, they aren't showing up in the pictures. I also agree it looks good and if anyone wanted to nitpick just ask them, "Can you provide photographic proof they didn't exist?"
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr. member #3967
- Joined: 05 Mar 2003, 09:39
About the only places where USA Trains might have gone overboard, in my opinion, is the use of the script herald, which these cars might surely predate, and the reporting marks on the car door, which I've never seen anywhere.
- Joined: 20 Jun 2003, 21:15
NH746EJO - I'm really impressed with your model & photography of the 70135. Since I don't want to hijack or divert this thread, would you mind contacting me off-list? chris at thevalleylocal dot net
I'd love to learn more about how you did the model and photo.