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Joined: December 18th, 2017, 6:42 pm

December 19th, 2017, 12:11 pm #1

I was curious if there are any resources available for rail that had been installed in the past. For example what certain stamps/letter pairs mean on the rail.
I recently acquired an old piece but there was no date on the rail. From my research I’ve determined that the date is somewhere between 1891-1899. (I did find an article from Feb. 1897 that makes note of the New Haven purchasing rail from L. I. & S.)
Lackawanna Iron & Steel Company, [with the] NYNH&H stamp. 100 lb rail.




Any further information would be appreciated. At the very least I hope some of you enjoy seeing this little piece of history.
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December 19th, 2017, 12:20 pm #2

Another piece that I have recently taken possession of reads “A. & R. I. & S. STEEL TROY 1879” (with a M and what appears to be a backwards N.) I was interested in knowing what that MN was code for.
Albany & Renssellaer Iron & Steel Company.





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rsullivan
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Joined: December 14th, 2016, 3:36 pm

December 19th, 2017, 6:43 pm #3

I admire your hobby of collecting rail Mr. Firewalkwithme, but I have one question. Are you collecting full length pieces of rail or just cut segments with the molded identification? Thanks for sharing these two pieces of your collection that were used by the New Haven RR with us.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
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December 19th, 2017, 8:39 pm #4

rsullivan wrote:I admire your hobby of collecting rail Mr. Firewalkwithme, but I have one question. Are you collecting full length pieces of rail or just cut segments with the molded identification? Thanks for sharing these two pieces of your collection that were used by the New Haven RR with us.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
Thank you... Just the section with the markings.


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DBrion
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December 20th, 2017, 12:10 am #5

That looks like rather "heavy" hobby.  I used to collect rail spikes from all the many places I walked on the old NH ROW.  Several hundreds of pounds and many relocations later they were finally disposed of in Birmingham, AL.  As they say in the south, "Too much sugar for a dime."
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joemato
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Joined: September 9th, 2003, 1:57 pm

December 21st, 2017, 10:18 am #6

firewalkwithme wrote: I was curious if there are any resources available for rail that had been installed in the past. For example what certain stamps/letter pairs mean on the rail.
I recently acquired an old piece but there was no date on the rail. From my research I’ve determined that the date is somewhere between 1891-1899. (I did find an article from Feb. 1897 that makes note of the New Haven purchasing rail from L. I. & S.)
Lackawanna Iron & Steel Company, [with the] NYNH&H stamp. 100 lb rail.




Any further information would be appreciated. At the very least I hope some of you enjoy seeing this little piece of history.
The Berkshire line has 107 lb rail from 1907 that is still in use with 100 ton freight cars. Joe
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rrtrax2
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Joined: July 16th, 2007, 3:27 pm

December 21st, 2017, 10:59 am #7

On my recent bus tours (about 100 riders on two trips) of the Meriden, Waterbury & Connecticut River RR, I found the guard rail on a small bridge east of Baldwin Park to be Albany & Rensselaer Iron & Steel Co., [A&R I&S Co] Troy Steel 1879, produced for the Hartford & New Haven [H&NH] -1880! Always interesting to see use of the constituent company names after 1872 creation of NYNH&H. I believe that the divisions were run to some extent as separate companies.

The MW&CR was attached to the Hartford Division after its takeover in 1898. Quite exciting to find piece of rail lettered for predecessor! May have missed the rail-weight number but
I don't think it was there. Perhaps 80lb, as compared to 105lb for the running rail. The line is out of service for 40+ years but still owned by York Hill Quarry...

- Bob Belletzkie / TylerCityStation / rrtrax2@yahoo.com

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December 22nd, 2017, 6:10 am #8

rrtrax2 wrote:
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Nice piece, Bob! My 1879 piece was also used as a guard rail on a bridge.


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joemato
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January 6th, 2018, 9:12 am #9

I used to collect date nails that gave the year a tie was installed. Got them as far back as the 1920's. A lot less effort. I do use sections of old rail as anvils when metalworking. Joe
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