New Haven Branch From Rising To State Line MA

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kcur8722
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May 1st, 2015, 7:04 pm #11

Thank you Tom for your imformative post.  I didn't realize the DVD "New Haven Railroad In The 1950's" has footage of the branch.  I would agree that Pete McLachlan is probably the most prolific photographer of the New Haven Berkshire Rail Line, where he worked until he retired. I don't understand myself, Tom, why there wasn't much railfan photos of the line.  What I would like to see is a railroad book devoted to the New Haven Berkshire Line with photos & text.
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Ron High
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May 2nd, 2015, 12:03 pm #12

Tom,Was the Berkshire the location of the very nice Howard Fogg Alco publicity painting of the three RS2s on a freight?Ron High
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May 2nd, 2015, 12:24 pm #13

The only one that even comes close is In The Shoreline's Shadow. That book only covers the south end up to Danbury.
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Statkowski
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May 2nd, 2015, 6:51 pm #14

Ron High wrote:
Was the Berkshire the location of the very nice Howard Fogg Alco publicity painting of the three RS2s on a freight?
Yes it was.  Possibly somewhere in the vicinity of Kent, or Hatch Pond.  According to the writings of Mr. Fogg, or someone writing about him, it's the only Alco painting he ever did where he actually visited the location.
  
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bogman102
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May 4th, 2015, 9:52 am #15

I heard, don't know if true, that the Fogg painting was Hatch Pond.



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Statkowski
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May 4th, 2015, 10:31 am #16

This was previously discussed here http://thenhrhtanewhavenrailroadforum.y ... UeCSjrD874
The Berk was the RS-2's first stomping grounds on the New Haven.
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Tom Curtin
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May 4th, 2015, 6:58 pm #17

Most people who know the Berkshire jump on Hatch Pond (South Kent) as Fogg's location.  And I agree, it does look right.  Now that said, Howard Hogg himself said that none of his Alco engine paintings depicted any actual place.  He got to know the appropriate area --- and of course the Berkshire was the first place to operate RS-2s --- and developed a motif that looked right.
Now, I, in my usual anal retentive manner, will opine that Fogg's painting depicts a scene unlikely to have happened!  In the era when RS-2s dominated the Berk (December 1947 until RS-3 took over sometime in 1951) the State Line freight IE-1/EI-2 was a night job.  By the time it became a day job you would have seen only RS-3s.
I guess many of us know that for years the HO model manufacturer hobbytown of boston [lower case intentional] used that very same painting on their Alco RS box  But --- AHA! --- the hobbytown model was an RS-3!  (no model of an RS-2 was made until brass importer Alco Models did one about 40 years ago). 
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Tom Curtin
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May 4th, 2015, 7:08 pm #18

day10s wrote:

The only one that even comes close is In The Shoreline's Shadow. That book only covers the south end up to Danbury.
I will add that Peter Cornwall's In the Shore Line's Shadow is well researched and well written --- as a history book.  It cries out for chapters on  railroad operations, which were very interesting on the Danbury Line.  I'm talking about details of passenger consists, freight schedules, freight customers, what power was assigned when, and so on (I probably should keep my mouth shut because I'm not volunteering to write this).
I know that Peter did write a draft of a Berkshire Line book after he finished In the Shore Line's Shadow; he told me so himself.  But I never heard any more than that
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May 4th, 2015, 10:39 pm #19

IiiiI donpt know if there is anything on here to help ....o
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sauced2007
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April 11th, 2018, 4:20 pm #20

Innealtoir wrote: IiiiI donpt know if there is anything on here to help ....o
Anyone know where the above track chart comes from and what year is represents? 
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