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rghammill
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November 1st, 2007, 11:31 pm #41

Thanks, Noel
I was just curious since it was notated differently on each table.
I'll undoubtedly end up following the tables relatively closely anyway, since I can't afford to model the entire roster...
So, anybody have the 1951 assignements? Are cabooses listed in the April, 1950 or earlier engine assignment books?
Thanks again!
Randy
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Noel Weaver
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November 2nd, 2007, 2:24 am #42

The October, 1950 is the only Engine Assignment book in my
collection which also has caboose assignments.
There was a separate book with Caboose Assignments at least
in 1953.
Noel Weaver
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Bill Chapin
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November 2nd, 2007, 11:44 pm #43

Randy,
It may be difficult to do, but keep your eye out for photos from the time period you have assignments for and see if there is much correlation between the two.
Bill
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rghammill
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November 7th, 2007, 10:48 pm #44

Does anybody know when the engine assignments for the NY/YN freights and the New Hartford Local (HDX-5) changed from steam to diesels? What were the diesels that were assigned?
I know it was by the end of 1948.
Noel, I've compiled what info I could about the last steam runs from your earlier posts. But they were detailing the last steam in Waterbury, and I'm not sure about the steam through New Britain that didn't go to Waterbury.
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Randy
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Noel Weaver
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November 7th, 2007, 11:07 pm #45

New Britain probably lost its last steam around the same
time as Waterbury did. Once the RS-1's, RS-2's and first
RS-3's were in service, steam on the west end of the
railroad was just about wiped out with a few exceptions.
Trains 131 and 136 were the last passenger trains anywhere
west of Hartford and when they finally went diesel in
November, 1948, there wasn't much other steam around either.
The first diesels in road use on the Canal were the Alco
S-2 yard switchers which were used on this line in road
service. They would haul as much as the J-1 engines (3000
class) but I doubt that they would haul it as fast as a
J-1 would. There were still two road jobs each way to
Holyoke at that time but once they get bigger and better
diesels for that line, they were able to do the work to and
from Holyoke with just one train each way.
Noel Weaver
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rghammill
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November 8th, 2007, 12:44 am #46

Thanks. Another quick question.
When were the DEY-1s moved out of Waterbury?
Were they used on local freights, or just in the yards?
Would they have been seen in New Britain at all, since it doesn't appear there was a local freight from Waterbury to New Britain?
Randy
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Noel Weaver
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November 8th, 2007, 1:46 am #47

0900's Lasted through the period on the NHRR in Waterbury.
The came when they were quite new for yard work and lasted
right through the end of the New Haven Railroad at the end
of 1968. During the earlier days there were four or five
assigned to Waterbury (one Waterbury engine was used in
Derby)as there were three or more yard jobs in Waterbury.
The 0900's were not normally used on the road out of
Waterbury but sometimes on Sunday's the meat extra to
Derby would get one to swap out with the one in Derby to
bring it back to Waterbury for inspection and/or repairs.
Once in a while one could also be found on a work train.
I don't think the 0900's were regular visitors to New
Britain although in their early days they probably could
show up on various locals.
Noel Weaver
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Tom Curtin
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November 8th, 2007, 9:06 am #48

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Does anybody know when the engine assignments for the NY/YN freights and the New Hartford Local (HDX-5) changed from steam to diesels?
I am pretty sure the NY/YN's went to diesels with the second set of RS-2s when delivered in Nov-Dec 1948. My Sept. 1949 Engine Assignment shows those jobs powered by RS-2s.
That surmise is fully in line with what Noel stated above.
The New Hartford local freight was based in Hartford and I am going to guess that probably went to diesels in early 49 with an S-1 or an S-2. Reason I say this is that in my conversations with John Wallace he recalls that the Valley Line local, also based in Hartford, went to diesel some time in early 1949, with an S-1. I would bet that all the other Hartford based local freights probably went to diesels about the same time, and probably with the same kind of power.
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rghammill
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November 30th, 2007, 4:13 am #49

OK, I have autumn 1950 and 1952. Does anybody have the engine assignments for autumn 1951? I believe it would be dated September 30, 1951.
The freights would be AO/OA, NY/YN, and HDX-5.
Passenger trains are 128, 129, 131, 136, 157, 421, 446, 463, 472
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Randy
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AZHONutCase
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November 30th, 2007, 4:20 pm #50

Noel Wrote:
"The first diesels in road use on the Canal were the Alco S-2 yard switchers which were used on this line in road service. They would haul as much as the J-1 engines (3000 class) but I doubt that they would haul it as fast as a J-1 would."
Noel, are you saying that the steam power on the Canal Line was a J-1 before the switch to the S-2?

I lived in Brooksvale near the Canal and I am trying to build a consist for the period 1942 to 1956.
I clearly remember when the diesel engine (I thought it was an RS-1 or 2) replaced the steam power because my Brooksvale neighbors missed the train whistling the crossings up from Mt. Carmel. Eventually, to placate them, the NH put a steam whistle on it that sounded like a dying animal.
So much for progress.
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