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flatcar99
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Joined: July 22nd, 2017, 2:53 pm

January 14th, 2018, 6:11 pm #1

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DBrion
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Joined: June 21st, 2006, 1:52 am

January 14th, 2018, 6:59 pm #2

Why?
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NewHavenGeek
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Joined: November 1st, 2017, 7:52 pm

January 23rd, 2018, 8:01 am #3

what's so special about B&M TOFC operation?
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rsullivan
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Joined: December 14th, 2016, 3:36 pm

January 23rd, 2018, 9:01 am #4

    Mr. NewHavenGeek. I would say that the piggyback flats on the cover of vol. 24, no. 3. shown above appear to be exact copies of the New Haven piggyback flatcars in the 17500 - 17799 series. They have the same large drop plate on one end only, supported by the huge springs. The welded frame on the flatcar, and the two tubular rub-rails welded to steel angles in the stake pockets. They have the same tie-down on jacks system also being used. Two good pictures of the New Haven piggyback cars are on pages 28 and 29 of Shoreliner, vol. 21, iss. 1, in Mr. Wayne Drummond's article titled ""Piggyback" Operation Submarine Base." To me that makes them special and as germaine as their newly acquired president pictured on the other cover. That's my opinion.
    So, the questions arise, such as did a certain former NH president take New Haven official diagrams with him and have the B&M car shops outfit their welded frame flatcars to the NH RR specifications? Did the B&M have to pay royalties to the C&NW for the tie-down system like the NH did, or did they get away without the payments (probably not)? And for the nit-pickers, did the number and position of bolts and rivets on the drop plate match the NH's exactly? 
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
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