How is the quality and accuracy of this boxcar?

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How is the quality and accuracy of this boxcar?

nhhe52
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May 22nd, 2018, 9:56 pm #1

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rsullivan
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May 22nd, 2018, 11:08 pm #2

Mr. Ed(nhhe52). The New Haven boxcars series 33100 - 33499 were built in 1945 by Pullman Standard with the improved 3/4 dreadnaught ends with a ten foot interior height. The model's paint scheme matches the picture of 33401 on page 13 of Mr. David R. Sweetland's and Mr. Stephen Horsley's NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment (1995). I can't see the ends and mine are in boxes down in the basement so I can't see the ends. I know they are the correct improved dreadnaught ends, but don't recall if in the 4/4 or 3/4 rib configuration. If they are 4/4, you will have to sand off the top rib leaving the straight single rib on the top. They may not be ten foot interior heights, but I would not cut it down by six inches myself. I bought some when they first were offered by the NHRHTA and don't intend to do anything to them except remove the top rib on the end if there is one too many. Hope this helps.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
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nhhe52
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May 22nd, 2018, 11:11 pm #3

Thanks Richard,

Ed
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May 24th, 2018, 9:05 am #4

They weren't the best models around but the best available at that time. The Assoc had an exclusive on them for awhile in that scheme. After the exclusive period expired C & BT also did a run on they're own. They were also done in the script scheme as well. A couple of runs of the 33000-33499 series cars were also done for the NHRHTA by Intermountain in three different schemes.

John
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nhhe52
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May 24th, 2018, 4:44 pm #5

Thanks John,

Ed
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Peter R Ness
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May 25th, 2018, 8:10 am #6

Hi Ed,

As John wrote, these were very good models for the time they were offered.  If quality is of equal or greater importance as accuracy, they will look good on your layout. About 10 years ago I built a couple accurate versions of the 33000-33499 series using both Intermountain and Branchline 10' IH carbodies as starting points. A few years later Intermountain produced a correct model in HO scale for NHRHTA.

There is a table on box cars on the freight cars page of my website that includes HO scale modeling notes for accurate models. Later this year Kadee is launching the early PS-1 10'6" IH box car, but in the 6' wide door version. At this time there are no definite plans to produce a 7' door version that could be accurate for the 33500-34499 series NH boxcars, but in the past Kadee has produced the later PS-1 design in 6-, 7- and 8-foot door widths, so they will get to the 7' door opening on the early PS-1 design at some point.

Regards,
Peter
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nhhe52
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May 25th, 2018, 5:27 pm #7

Thanks Peter,

Ed
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May 26th, 2018, 10:56 am #8

Peter,
 I doubt  if any manufacturer will be producing the 10'-0" height PS-1 boxcar as only two railroads, (NH & DL & W), ordered them. A few railroads picked them second hand after the big NH selloff in the sixties but probably not enough roads to warrant new tooling. Years ago I "kitbashed" a 10' height car using an Intermountain 1941 AAR boxcar kit & Kadee ends, frames, roofs, etc. for the 40' PS-1s. Unfortunately those Kadee parts are no longer available separately.

John 
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nhhe52
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June 1st, 2018, 4:25 pm #9

FWIW:

I purchased the kit and found many of the parts poorly molded particularly where attached to the sprue.  For example I first sniped the sprue attachments of the roof walkway with micro cutting pliers then when removing the excess sprue material, which was the same thickness as the part, with an X Acto knife the walkway cracked into three parts.  Perhaps the britleness of the plastic has something to do with its age.

Ed
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rivermanvt
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June 11th, 2018, 5:47 am #10

An issue with the C&BT boxcars that has troubled me since they were first released is the height of the ribs on the roof. Dick Schweiger, C&BT's owner, claimed to have measured the height of a roof section he had but I wonder. When checked against all prototype dimensions I had at the time it appeared that the ribs were a scale height that was about twice the height of the prototype. I do not know if any modification was ever made for this but can quickly note the difference between the C&BT models and anyone else's. YMMV.

Cordially, Don Valentine
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