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Rick Abramson
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Joined: 09 Mar 2003, 07:00

15 Jul 2017, 10:37 #1

Can't wait to get one of these. . .
NH dome.jpg
NH dome.jpg
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bogman102
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Joined: 10 Oct 2007, 09:40

15 Jul 2017, 13:42 #2

That is a gem!
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Statkowski
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Joined: 05 Mar 2003, 09:39

15 Jul 2017, 15:04 #3

I somehow doubt it would clear the East River tubes en route to Penn. Station, or the Park Avenue Tunnel, either.
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TomCurtin
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Joined: 13 Jul 2017, 14:13

15 Jul 2017, 17:02 #4

I remember this running on weekends on the Berkshire (The only NH route that has clearances for an overdimension car like this) for a while in the early 60s. They had to put it on at Danbury, just ahead of the parlor car. I recall it looked pretty good behind a pair of FL9s
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rsullivan
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Joined: 14 Dec 2016, 20:36

15 Jul 2017, 17:28 #5

That is on sale for $26.77 from Con-Cor direct. It is SKU: 71103 HO 85 ft Streamline Corrugated Passenger - Dome New Haven. Webpage link: https://www.con-cor.com/website/product ... new-haven/. This is one of a number of old trainset models they still have which they do not claim any authenticity for, but will sell. There are also two Pennsylvania Railroad versions for those who want to run 'non-prototypical' PRR through trains. First is SKU:713 HO 85 ft Streamline Corrugated Passenger - Dome Pennsylvania. Webpage link: https://www.con-cor.com/website/product ... nsylvania/. The second is SKU: 718 HO 85 ft Streamline Corrugated Passenger - Dome Pennsylvania Senator. Webpage link: https://www.con-cor.com/website/product ... a-senator/. Remember that way back when, Athearn had a 72 ft dome passenger car in McGinnis colors (non-New Haven McGinnis that is). Here is a picture I found.
I think these are all some of the quaint models offered many years ago.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr. member #3967
3668 Lone Valley Road
Calvert City, Kentucky 42029-8322
Athearn's non-New Haven dome passenger car from yesteryear and days gone by.jpg
This is the Athearn entry into the New Haven RR streamline passenger car fleet. Note the stylish dome so the pasengers laying on their back can enjoy the sparks from the catenary and tunnel roofs collapsing the framework. Note the very non-prototypical McGinnis paint scheme. Wonder if it is NH color 409 red or 406 red? Yes, the lettering is not 5.5 style from NHRTI - 5.5 Standing Data Sheet. Yes, the trucks need to be changed out too.
This is the Athearn entry into the New Haven RR streamline passenger car fleet. Note the stylish dome so the pasengers laying on their back can enjoy the sparks from the catenary and tunnel roofs collapsing the framework. Note the very non-prototypical McGinnis paint scheme. Wonder if it is NH color 409 red or 406 red? Yes, the lettering is not 5.5 style from NHRTI - 5.5 Standing Data Sheet. Yes, the trucks need to be changed out too.
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NHJJ4
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Joined: 18 Aug 2003, 09:18

16 Jul 2017, 03:16 #6

Rick Abramson wrote:
15 Jul 2017, 10:37
Can't wait to get one of these. . .
Rick,
Didn't that GM Train of tomorrow run on the NH with an E unit , dome car & Obs ?? Think UP got it
Jim
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rsullivan
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Joined: 14 Dec 2016, 20:36

16 Jul 2017, 04:18 #7

Mr. Jim(NHJJ4). I looked up the dates the GM Train of Tomorrow was in cities that the New Haven RR served on The Story of the 1947 - 1949 GM Train of Tomorrow website's timeline page (http://themetrains.com/gm-train-of-tomo ... meline.htm). From Framingham, NY on October 28 - 31, 1948, to Meriden, CT on November 2 - 4, 1948, to Bristol, CT on November 5 - 7, 1948, to Elmsford, NY. Next time was Poughkeepsie, NY on April 12 - 13, 1949, to New Haven, CT on April 14 - 15, 1949, to Bridgeport, CT on April 16 - 17, 1949, to New London, CT on April 18 - 19, 1949, to Providence, RI on April 20 - 22, 1949, to Manchester, NH. Next time was Worchester, MA on April 29 - May 2, 1949, with a private showing at the Pullman plant on the 29th, and in the B&A freight yards the remaining days, Springfield, MA on May 4 - 6, 1949 (B&A yards but doesn't indicate trackage), Hartford, CT on May 7 - 9, 1949, to Canton, OH. The site gives a great and detailed history, and yes it was an E unit, each car had domes, and the dome observation lounge 'Moon Glow' is the only surviving car of the train. These dome cars are supposed to have been the basis for the ones ordered during the tour, so from what I understand their heights would be about the same. From the display locations, the train had to travel under catenary from Devon to New Haven, then to Bridgeport, and then on the way to New London. According to several of the books I've read, the shoreline also had low bridge heights between New London and Boston which may have been a problem, but I'm sure the engineers know for sure on that. Yes, the UP did get the train after the tour ended in 1949.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr. member #3967
3668 Lone Valley Road
Calvert City, Kentucky 42029-8322
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Rick Abramson
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Joined: 09 Mar 2003, 07:00

16 Jul 2017, 16:49 #8

Tom:
Must have been quite a view passing Hatch Pond and going thru the Glendale Curves.
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day10s
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Joined: 25 Feb 2008, 18:05

18 Jul 2017, 03:46 #9

I have all of these as complete trainsets in my Non Haven collection.
My favorite in the Con Cor New Haven line is the Budd dome observation.
Just imagine if this were used on a thru route Boston-Willamantic-Hartford-Waterbury-Danbury-Maybrook (to avoid the catenary) and points west via the Alphabet Route ala a modern day version of the Federal Express!
The trip might take awhile, but the view of the scenery would have been great. Kind of like the Canadian or one of the "land cruises". It is nice to think "what if".

Reggie Day
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rsullivan
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Joined: 14 Dec 2016, 20:36

21 Jul 2017, 20:50 #10

NHJJ4 wrote:
Rick Abramson wrote: Can't wait to get one of these. . .
Rick,
Didn't that GM Train of tomorrow run on the NH with an E unit , dome car & Obs ?? Think UP got it
 Jim
Mr. Jim(NHJJ4). There is a Shoreliner article on the GM Train of Tomorrow in volume 20, issue 1. It's by C.A. Brown titled "Domes On The New Haven - GM's Train of Tomorrow." It has pictures of the train at Forestville, CT, New Haven, CT and on B&A rails at Framingham, MA of a color image.
Richard H. Sullivan, Jr.  member #3967
3668 Lone Valley Road
Calvert City, Kentucky 42029-8322
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