FL 9s In Storage??

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P Munk
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April 11th, 2018, 2:32 pm #11

Yes, that's my understanding too.  When MetroNorth ordered their P32's for use on the Hudson, Harlem, and Danbury lines  they specified the escape hatch in front of the hood.  When Amtrak ordered their 18 P32's for use on the Empire Service, their main concern was the engineer having to spend 3 hours or more in the cab, so they specified a bathroom, which took up the space at the front of the hood.  Otherwise the engines are identical.   
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April 20th, 2018, 10:15 pm #12

P Munk wrote:
Solomon Shtrom wrote: Since the Shore Line East equipment going to be moved to the new New Haven to Springfield line, I really expected the FL-9 to be used. Is that true or is it going to be scrapped?
Connecticut DOT's plan to use Shore Line East equipment on the new commuter operation between NH and Springfield has been cancelled.  The original plan was to shift some M-8's from the NH-GCT line to Shore Line East to replace the cars going to the NH-Springfield line.  But two problems have developed:  First, commuter loading on the NH-GCT line has increased to the point where all the M-8's are needed there.  Second, even if M-8's were available, they would not be able to move onto certain storage tracks and passing tracks -- the Shore Line East running tracks are electrified of course, but not the sidings.  Amtrak was supposed to have completed this electrification work by now, but they are claiming that their construction crews had to be diverted to the other project, getting the second track re-installed on the NH-Springfield line.  

Right now lots of finger pointing between Amtrak and Conn DOT over this problem.  In the meantime, Conn DOT has purchased 16 second hand coaches from the Boston commuter authority MBTA.  These will be used on the NH-Springfield line, but first they need overhauls -- that's why MBTA had retired those cars, the high cost and lengthy time required for necessary overhauls.  It's no surprise to anyone but Conn DOT that the overhauls are taking a long time and right now the announced May startup of service is in serious jeopardy.  
Now that is going to be a bad start when May comes around. Also I guess that building new M-8s won't work and it is expensive? 
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April 20th, 2018, 10:19 pm #13

Gaffer wrote: It has now been reported that the FL 9s will be used as a "cab car" but will always be coupled to the front of the train. The power engine will be an Amtrak engine on the rear.

The reason for this is that the FL 9 has a front nose escape door to be used in the Grand Central tunnel should the train need to be evacuated. apparently the Amtrak engines lack this feature.
I know that door on the front of the EDER-5 (FL-9), and that even means that the FL-9s will be leading locomotives and Amtrak P-40s are power locomotives? Plus what about the engines on the EDER-5? Isn't that still operational or they have to repair it somehow or remove it somepoint?
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April 21st, 2018, 5:17 pm #14

My understanding is that the diesel engines on the FL-9's are still operational, but the third rail electric power pickups are no longer functional.  
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April 24th, 2018, 10:17 pm #15

jkasey wrote: I was in New Haven earlier today & observed from a building next to the yard that there were only four FL9s there. Couldn't tell the numbers though. I also saw one of units in the new scheme as well.

John
FL-9s in CT Rail paint.  That’s almost as depressing as seeing them with that yellow PC nose.  Well . . . ., almost.

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Yesterday, 8:06 am #16

Will be headed through on the Acela May 2.  I'll keep my eyes open and camera ready.

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Yesterday, 9:19 am #17

rfranzosa wrote: Will be headed through on the Acela May 2.  I'll keep my eyes open and camera ready.

Rick Franzosa
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Rapido will have to add the CT Rail livery to the Modernized FL-9 paint scheme options.  :)

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