EF-4's Virginians or Bricks?

BX10
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June 23rd, 2016, 2:08 pm #1

I recently came across Vol. 11 Issue 3 of the Shoreliner, in it there is an article by C.A. Brown entitled "THE NEW HAVEN EF-4's "BRICKS". On page 30the author writes "The red-orange body earned the nickname "Bricks" on the New Haven"
 So were they known as Virginians or as Bricks on the New Haven?
 Bill
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Statkowski
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June 23rd, 2016, 4:32 pm #2

Virginians.  Powerful enough to pull the flowers off of wallpaper.
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Tom Curtin
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June 23rd, 2016, 4:33 pm #3

Only as Virginians on the New Haven
A book on the Virginian Railway contains the remark "They possessed the beauty of misshapen bricks."  That's where the "Bricks" comment came from.
I enjoyed Henry's comment "pull flowers off the wallpaper."  They were real stump pullers all right --- which is logical when you consider that they were built to haul coal through the mountains,and their designers never contemplated their running out the 1960's on the largely sea-level New Haven.  Well ---- almost sea-level.  Yes, it is a pretty good grade up to Hell Gate in both directions butnowhere near coal country
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Statkowski
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June 23rd, 2016, 6:42 pm #4

When I worked Oak Point we always gave them a running start for the bridge.  Back out of the yard with their pick-up, hook up, and then back up the entire train until around the curve, out of sight of S.S. 4's home boards.  Clear off the signals, make sure S.S. 3's signals were cleared off, then hoof down the tracks with a green flag (or green light at night) and give the train a highball signal. 
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Rick Abramson
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June 23rd, 2016, 9:06 pm #5

Mr. Curtin and Brother Henry:

RIGHT YOU ARE!! They were NEVER known as Bricks. That "Brick" title was unfortunately fostered by the late Charlie Brown and it stuck.
A NH engineer that I knew who ran the Virginians commented to me that even with a 125 car Bay Ridge-Cedar Hill train, they had enough reserve power to take the North River with them.
At $25,000.00 per engine, the trustees got a great deal and electrified freight which PBM and Alpert eliminated was re-established! 
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June 26th, 2016, 10:26 am #6

Virginians.  Powerful enough to pull the flowers off of wallpaper.



 Or in HO Scale Trying to pull a load ( Spin the OMI  Coupling right off the drive shaft ) ??

 But then Any OMI is worthy of that as well.

 Jim
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Rick Abramson
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June 27th, 2016, 2:31 pm #7

Jim:

I have 2 OMI EF-4s and 4 Bachmann EF-4s. I rarely run the OMI's; slipping drive shafts, shorts.. .etc. The Bachmann's may not be as-detailed as the OMI's but they have real, non-slipping u-joints and are more dependable. . .AND replacement parts are avail.

Rick
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June 27th, 2016, 11:06 pm #8

 Rick,  The only real bug with the Bachmann unit is ( Stand up lift rings ) And once ya add the below the walkway Frame rail That add's to the look 1,000 %
 Other than that I like them as well as OMI well ?? maybe better.

 Jim
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Rick Abramson
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June 27th, 2016, 11:32 pm #9

Jim:

The 1st thing I did when I got the Bachmann's was to add that frame rail using a Plastruct I beam. It worked great!! Only other issue is the box on the roof is too low, same error Alco Models made on their model.
Rick
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nhhe52
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May 2nd, 2017, 4:59 pm #10

Can someone tell me the make and model of the EF-4 air horns?Where the original Virginian horns shopped out by NH and replaced with a NH spec horn?

Thanks,

Ed
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