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Some discussion has been going on here while I was away on vacation.Quote:
there is an interesting photo in the 'in the shoreline's shadow' book on p. 73 showing the site excavation for the 1903 station. the nyne depot is across the track from it. in the distance behind the site of the new depot appears to be another station. perhaps the housatonic depot, which the birdseye map shows located where the new station is going, was moved further east? do we know what happened to it?
do we know when the loop was actually put in? in 1886 when the housatonic leased the d&n and wanted to connect directly to it or shortly thereafter? it is certainly in before 1892 when the new haven leased everything in danb
I can't link to this map --- I get a file open error. Based on what you're saying I suspect there may be an error (or errors) on it. Pete Cornwall did write that the Housatonic used, beginning 1868, a depot "on Balmforth Ave." I had discussed that with Pete and we both think that depot was trackside in back of the Edelweiss Hotel (site of present Dunkin Donuts). I think the site of the 1903 Danbury station was unoccupied before construction of the 1903 station.Quote:
i may have already seen and referred to this map but if you look at structures 20, 21, and 22 and check the map key, they are labeled as d&n, nyne, and housy depots respectively, with the housy standing where the 1903 union station is now.
.I really can't answer that authoritatively since it would have been 45-plus years before I was around!! However, based on my memory of that building, which was around until quite recent times, I am inclined to doubt it had ever been anything but freight storage.Quote:
is there any chance that the single-story east wing of the freight house that we see in cornwall (p 73) was the old housy depot moved out of the way and recycled as a freight depot?
What I referred to as the 2-story west wing of the freight house was constructed at the same time as, or maybe even after, the 1903 White St. station. It was mostly office space IIRC.Quote:
or, is the upper level of the two-story, west wing of the freight house possibly the the old housy depot sitting atop a new first floor? were two-story freight buildings like this common? were the windows on the upper level typical freight-house style? they look to me plausible for a passenger depot. and those windows do match the little sketch on the map with 8-ish windows on the side. the detail for the d&n and nyne depots on the map is quite realistic if you look closely. perhaps i am 'reaching' a bit here with this latter point, pun intended! - bob
Thank you, this time the link worked. I see, the station you're talking about is #22 on that drawing. I have a hypothesis that station -- if it actually was on that site --- went away when the loop was put in in 1886. It's possible this is the station that Pete Cornwall's rtesearch had placed on Balmforth Ave., in back of the Edelweiss Hotel (#25 on the drawing), and perhaps it was moved at some point. This is very interesting!Quote:
i was at the danbury p.l. yesterday and copied an 1880 hopkins detailed street atlas of danbury which shows the nyhn depot at the site of the 1903 nhrr station. this is what i think became the housy depot in 1882 when the housy purchased the nyhn. this was perhaps the white st station that the housy and the nhrr served until ca. 1902, when it was razed or moved, and not the nyne white st station which was across the tracks and "out of the loop."
That could be. At least the date is plausible, since the cornerstone on the Post office building which occpies the site today is 1915. Personally, I would be surprised if it really was razed as late as 1914 since it had ceased to be used in 1903, and to all reports had been a ramshackle dump before that! (But, I've been surprised before . . . )Quote:
btw, the main st d&n depot was razed in 1914 according to another source at the library.
I wish I could help you with that but unfortunately I have a hell of a time posting images myself!Quote:
i would post the scan i have of the 1880 map here if i could figure out how to do it. any advice?