BELL DOCK CONNECTION TO THE MAIN LINE IN NEW HAVEN, CT

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BELL DOCK CONNECTION TO THE MAIN LINE IN NEW HAVEN, CT

highiron1
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Joined: December 4th, 2017, 11:30 pm

December 4th, 2017, 11:45 pm #1

MY FATHER WORKED ON THE NEW HAVEN IN MANY PLACES INCLUDING BELL DOCK. I HAVE BEEN TRACING THE LINE.  LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH I SAW A BRIDGE NEAR THE MAIN LINE.  THE SWITCH IS GONE, BUT THE ROAD BED GOES TOWARD THE NORTH SIDE OF THE OLD AC GILBERT FACTORY.  I TRACED THE TRACK CURVING TO THE LEFT AND GOING DOWN ALONG SIDE JOHN MURPHY DRIVE.  I COULD SEE SOME OLD SIDINGS TO SOME FACTORIES.  THE TRACK CROSSED GRAND AVE, AND CHAPEL STREET AND THEN DOWN RIVER STREET.  MY QUESTIONS ARE:  1 DID THEY USE THE BRIDGE TO GO TO THIS TRACK GOING DOWN TO RIVER STREET, AND IF SO WAS IT ANOTHER CONNECTION TO THE MAIN LINE.  2  DID THIS LINE GO DOWN TO THE BREWERY. DID THIS LINE CONNECT BACK TO THE MAIN BY BLATCHLEY AVE?  I CANNOT REMEMBER, AND A LOT OF THE TRACK HAS BEEN MOVED AROUND.    THANK YOU   PAUL MILNER     HIGHIRON@BELLSOUTH.NET
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Innealtoir
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Joined: December 15th, 2005, 1:46 am

December 5th, 2017, 10:05 pm #2

highiron1 wrote: MY FATHER WORKED ON THE NEW HAVEN IN MANY PLACES INCLUDING BELL DOCK. I HAVE BEEN TRACING THE LINE.  LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH I SAW A BRIDGE NEAR THE MAIN LINE.  THE SWITCH IS GONE, BUT THE ROAD BED GOES TOWARD THE NORTH SIDE OF THE OLD AC GILBERT FACTORY.  I TRACED THE TRACK CURVING TO THE LEFT AND GOING DOWN ALONG SIDE JOHN MURPHY DRIVE.  I COULD SEE SOME OLD SIDINGS TO SOME FACTORIES.  THE TRACK CROSSED GRAND AVE, AND CHAPEL STREET AND THEN DOWN RIVER STREET.  MY QUESTIONS ARE:  1 DID THEY USE THE BRIDGE TO GO TO THIS TRACK GOING DOWN TO RIVER STREET, AND IF SO WAS IT ANOTHER CONNECTION TO THE MAIN LINE.  2  DID THIS LINE GO DOWN TO THE BREWERY. DID THIS LINE CONNECT BACK TO THE MAIN BY BLATCHLEY AVE?  I CANNOT REMEMBER, AND A LOT OF THE TRACK HAS BEEN MOVED AROUND.    THANK YOU   PAUL MILNER     HIGHIRON@BELLSOUTH.NET
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Innealtoir
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December 5th, 2017, 10:19 pm #3

This is from my work books. I worked with your father a few times off the spare board as conductor, I am not sure but I think he worked with a Fox as the other
brakeman. Enter the dock off the main line, the left top continues on the right bottom. Industries are named. On left the legend The Sawmill track at times was used as a running track. High side is the other side of Chapel St. the concrete abutments split the yard. The even side is where the full tank cars were picked up. The bottom left in red refers to a siding near the old trolley car barn. The hand thrown derail was a trap. Not controlled by tower 79 but controlled by crew. If the derail wasn't in place when finished with the track, the operator couldn't clear his signal. b Your father hired out in 1946 as a brakeman and I hired out as messenger in the Clerks in Sept. of 1944. Agewise I am 89. hired out as a kid. Sept. 8, 1944. 15 yoa....just so you know your leg isn't being pulled...
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highiron1
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December 5th, 2017, 10:59 pm #4

Innealtoir wrote: This is from my work books. I worked with your father a few times off the spare board as conductor, I am not sure but I think he worked with a Fox as the other
brakeman. Enter the dock off the main line, the left top continues on the right bottom. Industries are named. On left the legend The Sawmill track at times was used as a running track. High side is the other side of Chapel St. the concrete abutments split the yard. The even side is where the full tank cars were picked up. The bottom left in red refers to a siding near the old trolley car barn. The hand thrown derail was a trap. Not controlled by tower 79 but controlled by crew. If the derail wasn't in place when finished with the track, the operator couldn't clear his signal. b Your father hired out in 1946 as a brakeman and I hired out as messenger in the Clerks in Sept. of 1944. Agewise I am 89. hired out as a kid. Sept. 8, 1944. 15 yoa....just so you know your leg isn't being pulled...
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.   THIS SOLVES MY MYSTERY.  I WAS NICE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH MY FATHER.  I KNOW HE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING ON THE RAILROAD.  I GOT THE BUG AND WORKED PART TIME FOR THE CONNECTICUT CENTRAL RAILROAD FROM 1984 TO 1991 AND THE ARMY RESERVE AND 25 YEARS AS A BRAKEMAN/CONDUCTOR ON THE ARMY RAILROAD ON THE MILITARY OCEAN TERMINAL SUNNYPOINT, NC.  I ALSO WORKED WITH A MEMBER OF YOUR GROUP, WILLIAM SAMPLE.  HE WAS MY LOCOMOTIVE OPERATOR ON MY CREW.  HIS NICK NAME WAS "LARDLAD".  HE WORKED FOR AMTRAK AS THE STATION AGENT AT THE BERLIN STATION.  AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION...........PAUL MILNER
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seanduine
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December 6th, 2017, 10:32 pm #5

Bill Sample is on facebook. Still working for Astrak...
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rrtrax2
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December 26th, 2017, 9:29 am #6

The proper spelling of the name of the branch is Belle Dock, with the final 'e.'
So named for the popular steamboat Belle, which docked there in the early 1800s, two decades before the railroad.
The snippet is from an 1860 newspaper article...

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