A Rapido FB-2?

rapidotrains
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May 31st, 2016, 12:13 pm #1

Hi guys,
We're starting the design work on the HO scale FB-2, and we've had a LOT of requests for New Haven.

What would you like to see in terms of paint schemes? As far as we can gather they wore Hunter Green, McGinnis and Alpert.

Any feedback in terms of which numbers wore which paint schemes and when would be appreciated. 

Thanks,

Jason
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NHRHTA1
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May 31st, 2016, 2:45 pm #2

Those never were painted #212 Hunter Green only #13 Pullman and possibly one unit in #401 exterior green but never Hunter.
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May 31st, 2016, 3:45 pm #3

Jason,
 FB-2 468 was the only one to get the McGinnis scheme. FB-2s 466 & 467 were the only ones to get the Alpert scheme. I'm sorry but can't help you with the dates.
Regards,
John Kasey
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May 31st, 2016, 3:49 pm #4

IIRC, #469 never got painted into McGinnis or Alpert schemes. It stayed green right to the end, supposedly.  (fixed)

At least one of the FB-2's made it past 1/1/69 to be re-numbered by that other railroad (#3395), still in Alpert.

#468 was definitely in full McGinnis (white on top). See: "NHRR Final Decades", page 60.

I'll have to look through all the books and magazines to get something together. It's not too hard to find pics of FB-2's, the trick is to be able to read the number since they're almost always the 2nd or 3rd unit from the camera.

BTW, the FB-2's when built could only MU with other FA/FB's. In 1959, one FB-2 was part of a Alco rebuild that allowed them to MU with the NH GP9/RS-11/H16-44 fleet. The other 4 FB-2's were modified to run pool with the road switchers as well by 1965.
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May 31st, 2016, 6:17 pm #5

If this helps
I would place A order for them you have my support
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Statkowski
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May 31st, 2016, 6:47 pm #6

I think it would have to be an FB order.
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May 31st, 2016, 9:28 pm #7

In the Bob's Photo book "New Haven Diesel Locomotives Volume 2" There is a picture of the 469, the caption states that did last until Feb.1969 in the green scheme. The caption also states that it was in the dead line at New Haven in July 1968, it was assigned PC #3397.
 There is also a picture of the 468 in full McGinnis, and it was retired in Sept. 1969. There is also a picture of the 467 MUed between a 1600 and a 1400 in the Albert scheme.
 Bill
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May 31st, 2016, 10:47 pm #8

Summer of 1957 for a McGinnis FB-2 in "NH Trackside w/ McNamara", page 124.

#465 in McGinnis, no date, in "NH Trackside w/ McNamara", page 39.

#466 in Alpert, September 1961 in "NH Facilities Vol. 2", page 125.

#466 in Alpert, 1961, in NHRHTA 2008 Calendar for November.

#467 in Alpert, 1960, in "Diesel Locos of the NHRR", page 29 (bad pic but the date might be important).

#467 in Alpert, May 1961 in "NH Trackside w/ McNamara", page 29.

#467 in Alpert, 1967 in "New Haven Railroad" by Peter Lynch, page 140.

#468 in McGinnis 1961 in NHRHTA 2008 Calendar for November.

#469 in Green & Gold (good color shot; shows end, roof, and airhorn), no date, in "NH Trackside w/ Mitchell", page 53.

#469 in Green & Gold, May 16, 1966, in Shoreliner Vol. 14 Is. 3...and looking a little worn.

The Official NHRR Painting & Lettering diagram No. 9286 shows an Alpert revision date of 8-26-1958 for the FB-2's. When they got painted in Alpert after that is not exactly know, but it wasn't before that.

Also, the P&L diagram No. 9025 for the FA-1's show a change to #401 Exterior Green (was #13 Pullman Green) on 5-12-1954 (I don't have a diagram for the B-units in that scheme). It's uncertain if any of the FB-2's got the #401 between May 1954 and the arrival of the McGinnis scheme on the EP-5 Jets in 1955.

So far, it looks like this:

465 - #13 Pullman Green/#44 Deluxe Gold - #406 Orange-Red/White/Black

466 - #13 Pullman Green/#44 Deluxe Gold - #409 Red-Orange/Black

467 - #13 Pullman Green/#44 Deluxe Gold - #409 Red-Orange/Black

468 - #13 Pullman Green/#44 Deluxe Gold - #406 Orange-Red/White/Black

469 - #13 Pullman Green/#44 Deluxe Gold

Anyone have anything different?
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DBrion
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May 31st, 2016, 11:11 pm #9

To return to the leading post on this thread, Rapido asks what paint scheme is preferred?
(1)  as delivered
(2) McGinnis
(3) Alpert (my preference)
Should we not begin a survey to determine a response?
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June 1st, 2016, 12:57 am #10

Just for fun, think about this, folks...if the Rapido FB-2 comes out in NH paint, there will only be six NH diesel types never produced in HO scale in NH paint left:

RP-210H #3000-3001
P12-42 #3100-3101
LS-1200 #630-639
DEY-1 #0900
DEY-2 #0901-0910
HH600 #0911-0920

That's only 35 engines missing out of the entire 558 all-time diesel loco roster. How far we've come from the late-1980's. Not too bad for a "seldom modeled prototype".
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