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3:04 PM - Apr 16, 2018 #1

Warm Regards,
For those of you who have not heard of Victorian Hair Art, offer me a few minutes of your time and I will explain...Hair Art was typically made from human hair and reached its peak in popularity in the 1860's as a result of Queen Victoria's sentimental ways of preserving one's hair through jewelry, flowers, wall hangings and under glass domes.  These one-of-a-kind pieces were treasured and passed down from generation to generation.  Hair Art was constructed by artisans, weavers or a parlor pastime made by the hair grower herself; sometimes collecting hair of family members to create a true genealogical keepsake.  My love for the Victorian Period lead me to the topic of Hair Art many years ago, I have been creating Hair Jewelry for quite a number of years..instead of writing about it, it's best to show and explain: table woven necklace with cross pendant, made entirely of human hair.  Sterling Silver channel ring with woven hair inside.  For more examples, please venture over to my web site lucyshairwork.com.  Feel free to email me with questions! LucyIMG_0105 (2).JPG 
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3:07 PM - Apr 16, 2018 #2

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Hair Necklace with Hair Cross Pendant: I use hair extensions to make examples
but I also do custom work, the longer the hair, the more options you have!
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Joined: 7:14 AM - Jan 13, 2003

3:59 AM - Apr 17, 2018 #3

Hi Lucy,
Welcome to the Loom. You are welcome to talk about your work, but we just ask that you get to know us and allow us to get to know you by posting regularly on the boards. Do you have long hair yourself?
-Fox
Starting my growing journey all over again after health issues took a major toll on my hair.
17/25.5/35+ - Type 2C-3bMii Somewhat fine, wavy (with corkscrew curls on the underneath layer), natural color is light brown with gold and red highlights. Previously used henna for years, but had it highlighted out over a couple of years. Currently trying to decide what to do as far as continuing with that to keep up the roots or doing something different.

Products Used:
Aubrey Organics S&C - my most favorite, but currently using Neways Second Chance Shampoo, SheaMoisture's High Porosity Moisture-Seal Masque,
Sally Beauty Generic Value Product's version of Matrix Biolage conditioner (as a leave in, not rinsed out)
Aubrey Organics Chia Gel
Vinegar/herbal rinses
Oils: Jojoba, Castor, Coconut & essential oils
MP Popular Mix Brush
MP & Madora wide tooth combs
Vitamins/Minerals/Herbal supplements

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, they will become your character. Develop your character for it becomes your destiny."
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12:58 PM - Apr 17, 2018 #4

Hi Fox,
Yes, my hair is quite long(down to my tush), I use my combings in some of my example pieces, I made a rosary for my mom one Christmas, entirely from my hair, it took two years to save my combings.  Hair Art has been, and still is, such a personal keepsake, I still get those who think it is gross and not for them....I respect that.  If you would prefer my topic to be on hair products that I have found helpful, I will do so.
Thank you for the warm welcome, I'm sure I will learn a lot from the posts!   
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Fox
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3:57 AM - Apr 18, 2018 #5

You are welcome to talk about it all. It’s just usually better to let everyone get to know you before posting about business things because sometimes people come on only wanting to promote a business and not really be a part of the group. I am sure you have lots of good hair tips for everyone with hair that long! I also don’t find it gross to have hair jewelry. Of course I like Victorian things and think it’s always good to people carrying on traditional skills from the past! 
-Fox
Starting my growing journey all over again after health issues took a major toll on my hair.
17/25.5/35+ - Type 2C-3bMii Somewhat fine, wavy (with corkscrew curls on the underneath layer), natural color is light brown with gold and red highlights. Previously used henna for years, but had it highlighted out over a couple of years. Currently trying to decide what to do as far as continuing with that to keep up the roots or doing something different.

Products Used:
Aubrey Organics S&C - my most favorite, but currently using Neways Second Chance Shampoo, SheaMoisture's High Porosity Moisture-Seal Masque,
Sally Beauty Generic Value Product's version of Matrix Biolage conditioner (as a leave in, not rinsed out)
Aubrey Organics Chia Gel
Vinegar/herbal rinses
Oils: Jojoba, Castor, Coconut & essential oils
MP Popular Mix Brush
MP & Madora wide tooth combs
Vitamins/Minerals/Herbal supplements

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, they will become your character. Develop your character for it becomes your destiny."
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10:47 AM - Apr 18, 2018 #6

Hi Again,
I understand your concerns, I feel this site will be helpful for me in many ways.....I usually braid my hair(which is not the best method of tending to healthy hair) it's too heavy to style and winds up giving me head aches. I like the look of the large combs, maybe that would be a good alternative. Reminds me of the story "Gift of the Maji"  
Thank you for sound advice.
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2:51 PM - Apr 18, 2018 #7

victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote:Warm Regards,
For those of you who have not heard of Victorian Hair Art, offer me a few minutes of your time and I will explain...Hair Art was typically made from human hair and reached its peak in popularity in the 1860's as a result of Queen Victoria's sentimental ways of preserving one's hair through jewelry, flowers, wall hangings and under glass domes.  These one-of-a-kind pieces were treasured and passed down from generation to generation.  Hair Art was constructed by artisans, weavers or a parlor pastime made by the hair grower herself; sometimes collecting hair of family members to create a true genealogical keepsake.  My love for the Victorian Period lead me to the topic of Hair Art many years ago, I have been creating Hair Jewelry for quite a number of years..instead of writing about it, it's best to show and explain: table woven necklace with cross pendant, made entirely of human hair.  Sterling Silver channel ring with woven hair inside.  For more examples, please venture over to my web site lucyshairwork.com.  Feel free to email me with questions! LucyIMG_0105 (2).JPG 
So interesting someone actually still does these! We visited the Whaley House in San Diego...it's a historical haunted house by the way in case you hadn't heard of it...and they had a hair art picture on the wall. The docent was telling us about it on our tour and I was so intrigued. Here's a photo.

2bfii
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Joined: 7:14 AM - Jan 13, 2003

3:45 AM - Apr 19, 2018 #8

victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote: Hi Again,
I understand your concerns, I feel this site will be helpful for me in many ways.....I usually braid my hair(which is not the best method of tending to healthy hair) it's too heavy to style and winds up giving me head aches. I like the look of the large combs, maybe that would be a good alternative. Reminds me of the story "Gift of the Maji"  
Thank you for sound advice.
Braiding can be a great way to keep long hair safer, but when you want to wear it up, hair combs can be a good option, so can hairtsicks. Since your hair feels heavy, you might try a bun style that distributes the weight differently, like The Chinese Bun or the Figure 8 Bun. 
-Fox
Starting my growing journey all over again after health issues took a major toll on my hair.
17/25.5/35+ - Type 2C-3bMii Somewhat fine, wavy (with corkscrew curls on the underneath layer), natural color is light brown with gold and red highlights. Previously used henna for years, but had it highlighted out over a couple of years. Currently trying to decide what to do as far as continuing with that to keep up the roots or doing something different.

Products Used:
Aubrey Organics S&C - my most favorite, but currently using Neways Second Chance Shampoo, SheaMoisture's High Porosity Moisture-Seal Masque,
Sally Beauty Generic Value Product's version of Matrix Biolage conditioner (as a leave in, not rinsed out)
Aubrey Organics Chia Gel
Vinegar/herbal rinses
Oils: Jojoba, Castor, Coconut & essential oils
MP Popular Mix Brush
MP & Madora wide tooth combs
Vitamins/Minerals/Herbal supplements

"Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, they will become your character. Develop your character for it becomes your destiny."
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3:31 PM - Apr 19, 2018 #9

mermayd wrote:
victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote:Warm Regards,
For those of you who have not heard of Victorian Hair Art, offer me a few minutes of your time and I will explain...Hair Art was typically made from human hair and reached its peak in popularity in the 1860's as a result of Queen Victoria's sentimental ways of preserving one's hair through jewelry, flowers, wall hangings and under glass domes.  These one-of-a-kind pieces were treasured and passed down from generation to generation.  Hair Art was constructed by artisans, weavers or a parlor pastime made by the hair grower herself; sometimes collecting hair of family members to create a true genealogical keepsake.  My love for the Victorian Period lead me to the topic of Hair Art many years ago, I have been creating Hair Jewelry for quite a number of years..instead of writing about it, it's best to show and explain: table woven necklace with cross pendant, made entirely of human hair.  Sterling Silver channel ring with woven hair inside.  For more examples, please venture over to my web site lucyshairwork.com.  Feel free to email me with questions! LucyIMG_0105 (2).JPG 
So interesting someone actually still does these!  We visited the Whaley House in San Diego...it's a historical haunted house by the way in case you hadn't heard of it...and they had a hair art picture on the wall.  The docent was telling us about it on our tour and I was so intrigued.  Here's a photo.

2bfii
30'ish inches
The hair wreath was very popular during the Victorian Period(1838-1901) due to Queen Victoria's interest. There is a museum in Independence Missouri which houses over thousand pieces of hair art....the wreath in your photo is lovely, the workmanship,superb. Sometimes there is a sketch on the back of the frame which shows whose hair was used in which flower....a real genelogy piece. Thanks for sharing your photo, if I am ever out that way, I will definitely tour the Whaley House. 
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6:38 PM - Apr 22, 2018 #10

victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote: Hi Fox,
Yes, my hair is quite long(down to my tush), I use my combings in some of my example pieces, I made a rosary for my mom one Christmas, entirely from my hair, it took two years to save my combings.  Hair Art has been, and still is, such a personal keepsake, I still get those who think it is gross and not for them....I respect that.  If you would prefer my topic to be on hair products that I have found helpful, I will do so.
Thank you for the warm welcome, I'm sure I will learn a lot from the posts!   
We had a former member who had I think it was a cross made from her mother's hair. I hope she returns and joins in the conversation. I don't see anything gross about it but there are many out there who do view long hair as gross. Perhaps it's just that society has changed its views since Queen Victoria's day? And nowadays we have so many photos of loved ones that we don't think it necessary to have other types of visual reminders - an entirely different consideration pre-camera days.

As for the weight of your long hair, I highly recommend hairsticks. I've always had a problem with bobby pins making my head ache but I can wear a bun all day with just one hair stick and have no headache. My hair is about hip nowadays and I've found my go-to bun is the Lazy Wrap Bun (LWB). There are several good tutorials on YouTube but I prefer Haartraum's. I tried to post a link but it embedded the video and I'm not sure if that's allowed under the rules of this forum (hence the need to edit).


Hair Journey Began in June 2006 ...

Hair Type: 2a/M/ii
Hair Colour: Dark brown with natural red and silver highlights (more silver than red nowadays)
Starting length: 25"/62.5cm (BSL)
Initial Goal length: 36" (Tailbone)
Setback: Major shed in 2010 when at 38"
New Goal: Healthy hair that I'm happy with! (Preferably tailbone with thick hemline.)

Current Routine
CWCA: C = condition the length with conditioner or shea butter; W = wash the scalp using diluted organic shampoo; Condition = small amount of conditioner on ends; A = acidic rinse, either ACV or citric acid; Frequency = once a week. In-between times, scalp washes as required.
Tips for super soft hair = Wash with Miracle Water. Finish up with LOC (Liquid = water; Oil = almond/olive/avocado oils; Cream = aloe vera gel)
Other: Regular micro-trims; light oiling on dry hair a few times a week; BBB; wooden comb; Mason Pearson comb; hair sticks, Flexi-8's, Ficcare, and other hair friendly toys.


'Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfailing beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.' 1 Peter 3:3-4
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11:24 AM - Apr 23, 2018 #11

CrowningGlory wrote:
victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote: Hi Fox,
Yes, my hair is quite long(down to my tush), I use my combings in some of my example pieces, I made a rosary for my mom one Christmas, entirely from my hair, it took two years to save my combings.  Hair Art has been, and still is, such a personal keepsake, I still get those who think it is gross and not for them....I respect that.  If you would prefer my topic to be on hair products that I have found helpful, I will do so.
Thank you for the warm welcome, I'm sure I will learn a lot from the posts!   
We had a former member who had I think it was a cross made from her mother's hair. I hope she returns and joins in the conversation. I don't see anything gross about it but there are many out there who do view long hair as gross. Perhaps it's just that society has changed its views since Queen Victoria's day? And nowadays we have so many photos of loved ones that we don't think it necessary to have other types of visual reminders - an entirely different consideration pre-camera days.

As for the weight of your long hair, I highly recommend hairsticks. I've always had a problem with bobby pins making my head ache but I can wear a bun all day with just one hair stick and have no headache. My hair is about hip nowadays and I've found my go-to bun is the Lazy Wrap Bun (LWB). There are several good tutorials on YouTube but I prefer Haartraum's. I tried to post a link but it embedded the video and I'm not sure if that's allowed under the rules of this forum (hence the need to edit).
The u tube tutorial was very helpful(it also helps that I know German)....looks like sticks are the way to go.  
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7:42 PM - Apr 23, 2018 #12

victorianhairweaver 4u2C wrote:
The u tube tutorial was very helpful(it also helps that I know German)....looks like sticks are the way to go.  
I don't know German but I still find her videos helpful. And her hair is gorgeous.

As to sticks, you can always experiment with a pencil and see how it goes for you. Some people make their own hair sticks out of knitting needles or chopsticks. Personally, I wouldn't go that route (not as strong or stable) but they would be an easy way to determine if you like sticks. For some reason I find that bone sticks (my preference) and metal sticks hold better in my hair than plain wooden ones. I also like Ketylo sticks for holding a bun. Some people love forks. I'm not a huge fan but I do like my two metal forks that I bought off etsy (the vendor no longer makes them which is a shame because I've found that others do not have the same strength). 

Fox makes some beautiful sticks and I have found her quality and workmanship at least as good as - if not superior - to anything available off etsy.


Hair Journey Began in June 2006 ...

Hair Type: 2a/M/ii
Hair Colour: Dark brown with natural red and silver highlights (more silver than red nowadays)
Starting length: 25"/62.5cm (BSL)
Initial Goal length: 36" (Tailbone)
Setback: Major shed in 2010 when at 38"
New Goal: Healthy hair that I'm happy with! (Preferably tailbone with thick hemline.)

Current Routine
CWCA: C = condition the length with conditioner or shea butter; W = wash the scalp using diluted organic shampoo; Condition = small amount of conditioner on ends; A = acidic rinse, either ACV or citric acid; Frequency = once a week. In-between times, scalp washes as required.
Tips for super soft hair = Wash with Miracle Water. Finish up with LOC (Liquid = water; Oil = almond/olive/avocado oils; Cream = aloe vera gel)
Other: Regular micro-trims; light oiling on dry hair a few times a week; BBB; wooden comb; Mason Pearson comb; hair sticks, Flexi-8's, Ficcare, and other hair friendly toys.


'Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfailing beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.' 1 Peter 3:3-4
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