You say it makes sense but is not needed, you are wrong, the proof that it is needed is in those many Kenpo clips all over the net of Kenpoists many of them high ranking black belts moving in ways that would get them ripped apart if the people they were working the technique on would stop acting like a statue. You can see it in the lack of understanding when it comes to what you can use Delayed Sword on, some think you can use it just fine versus a punch as you do a grab and that is caused by not understanding what a catalyst is and what can happen when you fail to control the attackers intentional and unintentional actions.
The reason for Even-if versus what if should be obvious, in fact you state it several times in your post your taking away the variables. If you apply your Kenpo well thats what happens, the techniques are giving you the tools you need to do just that, but alas people do not want to work over and over on self defense techniques nah lets work this kali drill, boxing drill, BJJ escape, systema drill or whatever to fill the gap in the Kenpo system
Why would they bother when they have no confidence in the techniques. After all the techniques are to complete a category of motion or to teach a bunch of basics put together in a completely random and ill thought out manner or wait that only applies to the techniques that the Kenpoist cannot do well, those dang overly complex hard ones that require a miracle to pull off That is after all the kind of crap people say about the techniques. When are they going to realize how far off they are?
The sad truth is they NEVER will because when they do not understand something, they just turn to some other method, mix and match and presto they think that now with a smattering of this and that they have covered that gap in Kenpo. Really they are free to do whatever they want, the ones that really want to learn will keep an open mind and find the teachers that can do more than talk the talk.
I do not understand why you think that the progression of push defenses from Parting Wings to Encounter with Danger should be dictated by the Environment alone, as if the energy of the push does not get a say in it lol. What I am getting from what your saying is that the push attack stays exactly the same (same force etc) and based on your surroundings sometimes you just feel like falling on your back?
As for ARMMing it is made up of words which Mr. Parker used to explain the art you can find them in the Encyclopedia of Kenpo. To say position recognition is followed by do the technique is a true over simplification however I know what you mean because I have experience in the system but will new students get it or does it leave out things that happen when you do not control HWD zones because you failed to time it right (regulate.)
Will they be aware of setting up a negative orbit or will it knock some of their teeth out because they did not pay attention (monitor) because they thought all they needed to do was just do the technique. If they encounter targets of opportunity or targets being covered can they modify or will they be too busy just doing the technique lol
I wish you the best of luck in your training, I am certain that you will not change what you do based on some strangers post on a Kenpo Forum, but maybe something we discuss may turn a light bulb on for some third party reader, so it was worth typing this
I had a great Thanksgiving training with Clyde and I am heading back to base Sunday, I will try to make it back up here again during X-mas if I can.
Environment dictates everything. Simple as that. I didn't say other things shouldn't be considered, like the type of push you mentioned, but it is only after environment is considered. The premise of American Kenpo is that of multiple attackers, therefore it follows that environment is what dictates the response. If you counter an extremely strong push with Encounter from Danger and you failed to notice that your attacker has 3 friends, well good luck with that. You will continually have to respond to your attackers' 'catalysts', simply because you failed to consider the environment. That is poor strategy. You should have responded to the position of your attackers and moved according to the environmental considerations. There is already a technique for that, and you could have responded quickly and easily if you had trained the transitional movements to get to a better position. The positions are finite and controllable. The 'catalysts' of your attacker are not.
You have not understood what I discussed, but that is okay, it is a journey. That is shown by this statement of yours, "If they encounter targets of opportunity or targets being covered can they modify or will they be too busy just doing the technique lol."
I answered that question in terms of position recognition and perceptual speed training. Counters are merely a matter of your skill with the perceptual speed of recognizing the position and responding with a new technique. It isn't complicated and can be systematically trained and maintained for many years. In fact it might be the only skill set that can be maintained into old age and might therefore might be the most valuable. Because the positions are finite and limited the responses can be trained to be 'spontaneous'.
Bringing up what Kenpo looks like on the internet has nothing to do with the discussion. It doesn't prove anything. It is the equivalent of me saying John Wooden didn't know what he was doing at all, have you seen them kids playing ball down at the park? They have no fundamentals! It has nothing to do with which training methodology is better. For all we know, they aren't doing either of our methods. So what's the point of bringing them up.
Keep doing what you are doing though, I'm sure you are learning a lot. At some point down the line though, you will synthesize the process and categorize or chunk the responses to match the variables (if you want to be consistently successful). It is already done for you though, so I hope you don't try to reinvent the wheel in the process.
In short everything you are trying to account for with these ideas is already done in a much simpler and applicable way. All of the catalyst and AARMing business is chunked into the technique. It's why there are techniques. And those techniques are based on the environment.
To bring up your Delayed Sword scenario...You don't step back because he forces you back, you step back because the environment allows you to. Anyone other explanation is secondary, because if you couldn't step back, whether forced or not, you wouldn't. After acceptance of the situation you are in, environment rules everything. I don't understand why you are arguing such an obvious point.
Have fun training and after your next lesson with Clyde come back on here and share some stuff. I enjoy the discussions they push me to clarify my methods. Have a good Holiday.