A sad situation/Bally-LA Fitness Martial Arts..

A sad situation/Bally-LA Fitness Martial Arts..

Joined: February 25th, 2009, 8:54 am

December 7th, 2011, 12:08 am #1

Basically there has been a bad situation for Bally club members. For those of you that do not know LA Fitness has purchased the majority of Bally Clubs. Many people have been caught in the middle of this. Members, staff, instructors, kids.

We were given absolutely no warning only to find one morning that the club was sold and LA Fitness would not be accepting our lifetime memberships that we had shelled out the big bucks for to Bally's. They only accepted the Bally's members that were currently paying monthly..

But worse than this is the fact that many hard working families are in the martial arts program (TMA). The TMA program is not being carried over to LA Fitness. So a lot of folks lose out, lose money. Kids lose all the hope they had to be promoted. To get better.. ect.. Instructors lose with many having to go back to asia..

Now as far as memberships we have made some progress in the last few days but not close to what they should do for us. But the TMA program is screwed. When you study this please don't judge by style or other stuff. Just understand that this was an attempt to have exposure to actual martial arts verses "Kardio-Kickboxing". So it was a step in the right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7EybFuQVXw

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/17769 ... ts-Program

http://west.ballymartialarts.com/index.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC__zOA ... ideo_title

Petition:::

http://www.change.org/petitions/keep-ba ... rtial-arts
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Joined: March 4th, 2004, 2:39 am

December 7th, 2011, 1:20 am #2

Having been in the gym business this is not unusual. I always have told members that "lifetime" applies to the gym, not the members in most cases. It would go along way for LA Fitness to accept and continue the Bally memberships until the contract expiration but it seldom happens.

EKP RIP
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Joined: February 25th, 2009, 8:54 am

December 8th, 2011, 3:43 am #3

LA Fitness just did a turn around and gave all of us lifetime members full lifetime membership in most LA Fitness clubs for a renewal fee of 1 dollar a year for life. Additionally we keep our Bally membership. So we made out great...

Now we will have to see if they can be convinced to continue the martial arts program in the clubs.
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Joined: January 10th, 2006, 7:51 pm

December 11th, 2011, 8:50 am #4

That's good to hear. I've had a Lifetime $50 a year membership for about 20 years. Funny, the membership started at Jack LaLanes, got sold to Nautilas Aerobics Plus, then to Racketball World, then to Holiday Spa, then to Bally's, now L.A. Fitness.
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Joined: August 26th, 2011, 4:24 pm

December 12th, 2011, 4:20 am #5

Basically there has been a bad situation for Bally club members. For those of you that do not know LA Fitness has purchased the majority of Bally Clubs. Many people have been caught in the middle of this. Members, staff, instructors, kids.

We were given absolutely no warning only to find one morning that the club was sold and LA Fitness would not be accepting our lifetime memberships that we had shelled out the big bucks for to Bally's. They only accepted the Bally's members that were currently paying monthly..

But worse than this is the fact that many hard working families are in the martial arts program (TMA). The TMA program is not being carried over to LA Fitness. So a lot of folks lose out, lose money. Kids lose all the hope they had to be promoted. To get better.. ect.. Instructors lose with many having to go back to asia..

Now as far as memberships we have made some progress in the last few days but not close to what they should do for us. But the TMA program is screwed. When you study this please don't judge by style or other stuff. Just understand that this was an attempt to have exposure to actual martial arts verses "Kardio-Kickboxing". So it was a step in the right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7EybFuQVXw

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/17769 ... ts-Program

http://west.ballymartialarts.com/index.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC__zOA ... ideo_title

Petition:::

http://www.change.org/petitions/keep-ba ... rtial-arts
Neither Bally or LA Fitness are the place one should go looking for actual martial arts.
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Joined: June 1st, 2005, 5:34 am

December 12th, 2011, 6:59 pm #6

You have hundreds of huge fully equiped gyms, why should you not go to one for martial arts? You have thousands of members to get in front of, to be honest I am surprised that more of these big gyms have not taken advantage of that fact. Although I know 24 hour fitness has looked into it more then once and decided against it due to insurance costs. If you are making a comment about the level of instruction at these places thats another thing, but the setting could not be better in my opinion
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Joined: February 25th, 2009, 8:54 am

December 13th, 2011, 5:39 am #7

Neither Bally or LA Fitness are the place one should go looking for actual martial arts.
It has to do with the level of teaching and not the location. And a lot of people are out of touch with the fact that Karate is expensive a lot of the time when families try to get lessons. Not everyone has enough money for a karate school..

And actually though Tae Kwan Do is not my cup of tea it is an art. It has forms, techniques and sparring. And in fact the instructors at Bally are not all that bad. Many have been brought in from Korea and have 4 year fitness degrees from a very good program that teaches martial arts and fitness.

Look there are plenty of kenpo schools and other martial arts schools where students get nothing but games and birthday parties. I can assure you that the Bally program gave a lot more than that. In the right senario a health club is a perfectly fine place to learn. There are all kinds of machines to build streangth on. Also the clubs tend to have really excellent wooden floors and mirrors. Kids can learn martial arts while Mom and Dad work out.

Yes they are a little extreme in their flamboyance like plastering "MASTER" on the uniforms of their higher rank black belts but this really does not matter.

When I was a kid I was fortunate enough to be taught Tai Chi fighting by a great master. This all happenend in a public park. So I guess anything I learned is invalid because it was not in a school? Also whan I was a kid I started Karate lessons at the YMCA and to tell you the truth I was taught very well for basics. That foundation helped me greatly when I started at Tracys..

So I really think that what is important is the instruction verses the place where it happens.
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Joined: October 10th, 2010, 2:39 am

December 13th, 2011, 6:03 am #8

Neither Bally or LA Fitness are the place one should go looking for actual martial arts.
Ed Parker Sr. taught anywhere he could. It would have been funny to hear someone say that very same thing to him about teaching at the Arthur Murray Dance Studio.

Isn't it better to judge someone on their abilities, rather than where they acquired them?

Just a thought.
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