Kumag Wondering Jo, where could you read in the bible that to worship Jesus is idolatry?

Kumag Wondering Jo, where could you read in the bible that to worship Jesus is idolatry?

Joined: February 19th, 2011, 3:21 pm

April 9th, 2012, 3:04 pm #1

According to your allegation, the Lord Jesus doesn't deserve to be worshiped, that He shouldn't be worshiped, and that to worship Him is idolatry.

Prove your allegation by direct quotation and statement from the bible. ... Prove! ... Evidence!

No evidence, no proof! ... Evidence!
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Joined: February 19th, 2011, 3:21 pm

April 10th, 2012, 2:55 pm #2

Prove! ... evidence! evidence! evidence!
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Joined: July 31st, 2009, 6:29 am

April 10th, 2012, 3:01 pm #3

According to your allegation, the Lord Jesus doesn't deserve to be worshiped, that He shouldn't be worshiped, and that to worship Him is idolatry.

Prove your allegation by direct quotation and statement from the bible. ... Prove! ... Evidence!

No evidence, no proof! ... Evidence!
Matthew 4:10 (English Standard Version)
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Be gone, 1Satan! For 2it is written, 3"'You shall worship the Lord your God and 4him only shall you serve.'"

ANd Jesus knows that the "true" worshippers will worship the Father..." . And the false, vain worshippers worship not "only" the ALmighty Creatoir but also the created Jesus.

John 4:23 (English Standard Version)
23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.


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Joined: February 19th, 2011, 3:21 pm

April 10th, 2012, 3:25 pm #4

According to Kumag Wondering Jo, it is forbidden to worship the Lord Jesus, and that to worship Him is idolatry.

Let us cross examine Kumag's quotes.

1) Matthew 4:10 (English Standard Version)
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Be gone, 1Satan! For 2it is written, 3"'You shall worship the Lord your God and 4him only shall you serve.'"

Does this verse state that to worship Jesus is idolatry? No! None! Nowhere stated that to worhip Jesus is idolatry. None! Nowhere!


2) ANd Jesus knows that the "true" worshippers will worship the Father..." . And the false, vain worshippers worship not "only" the ALmighty Creatoir but also the created Jesus.

Does this verse state that to worship Jesus is idolatry? No! None! Nowhere stated that to worhip Jesus is idolatry. None! Nowhere!


3) John 4:23 (English Standard Version)
23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.

Does this verse state that to worship Jesus is idolatry? No! None! Nowhere stated that to worhip Jesus is idolatry. None! Nowhere!


This Kumag Wondering Jo is just making faulty assumptions and he believes on something not written in the bible.
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April 11th, 2012, 5:17 am #5

Jesus clearly said to worship GOd. That simply implies none other should be worshipped. And if you worshipped any other, that simply is a transgression of the word of Jesus, and you are doomed to helldom.

Sure, this 80 yr old fool who has the brain of an 8 yr old nuts cannot comprehend what we are talking about here.

THis Damaso is simply ETE in disguise, that liar in hiding.
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Joined: February 19th, 2011, 3:21 pm

April 11th, 2012, 1:24 pm #6

This Kumag WJ referred to John 4:24, let us quote

God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

According to Kumag Wondering Jo,
- that it is vain to worship the Lord Jesus
- that the Lord Jesus doesn't deserve to be worshipped
- that Jesus should not be worshipped
- that to worship Him is idolatry

Let us now cross examine.

Does John 4:24 say that it is vain to worship Jesus?
Does John 4:24 say that the Lord Jesus doesn't deserve to be worshipped?
Does John 4:24 say that Jesus should not be worshipped?
Does John 4:24 say that to worship Him is idolatry?

The answer to all these questions is, No! ... Nowhere! ... None! It is only Kumag Wondering Jo that said it! The Bible never say so!

Does the Lord Jesus worthy of worship? ... Yes! ... Because He is God!

Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen. (Romans 9:5)

Therefore, Kumag Wondering Jo is totally wrong! He could not find a verse in the bible which says that it is idolatry and forbidden to worship Jesus, that is why he quoted John 4:24 out of context and interpreted it by his own personal belief!

Kumag Wondering Jo, you could not prove what you are saying! You are only making assumtions; unproven! No evidence!
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April 11th, 2012, 2:59 pm #7

SO, who wants to argue with a nuts and a fool? BWA Ha aaha ha
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Joined: January 10th, 2004, 7:03 am

April 15th, 2012, 3:59 am #8

Jesus clearly said to worship GOd. That simply implies none other should be worshipped. And if you worshipped any other, that simply is a transgression of the word of Jesus, and you are doomed to helldom.

Sure, this 80 yr old fool who has the brain of an 8 yr old nuts cannot comprehend what we are talking about here.

THis Damaso is simply ETE in disguise, that liar in hiding.
They are our examples as the Bible says, so they are not vain worshippers. Don't claim to be better than they.
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Joined: September 27th, 2011, 9:24 am

April 15th, 2012, 5:17 pm #9

who to worship.

Apostle Paul says "...there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1tim2:5). Again he says "Yet for us (all of them- the apostles and followers)there is but one God, the Father..." (1cor 8:6).

They all know what Jesus said to the devil, that is, to worship God and serve him only.

Now tell me, why should the apostles violate their own doctrines and worship the worshipper Jesus instead???????

Tomas, even the devil knows who Jesus is- he knows he is man thus he tempts him. God cannot be tempted. ANd the devil also know who to pray to- none but God- only that he trembles. ARe you not aware of all these, TOmas?

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Joined: January 10th, 2004, 7:03 am

April 20th, 2012, 6:14 pm #10

to worship God only. Jesus said it carefully, he put the word 'only' next to 'serve', not next to 'worship'. So you need to read carefully.
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