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September 19th, 2017, 11:29 pm #61

If that is a new publication then maybe, but if it is a translation (the recent English one ?) I doubt it increases his chances. I am not aware of any recent new publications but it appears I am wrong here.

With Chinese candidates, I think Can Xue has the best prospects (hence putting her as my second favourite), and there is a good chance that they will go with a novelist this year.

Personally I would prefer any one of the following Chinese women poets to win (mentioned last year);

Shu Ting
Zhai Yongming
Wang Xiao Ni

But I doubt the Academy has them on their radar, unfortunately.

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September 19th, 2017, 11:53 pm #62

Interesting quote I found from Wästberg: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/12 ... -exchange/

Typical complaining article, but in his response he says, "Be sure we read a select group of American, Canadian, and Australian writers continuously!"

Since this was written in 2011, both Munro and Dylan won, and both were likely part of that "select group." Could an Australian be on the way?
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September 20th, 2017, 12:09 am #63

thanks red, forgot about that quote (its somewhere in our previous nobel threads), but more relevant now as you highlight

Malouf and Murnane are most on the Swedish radar I would say, the later for quite some time now.

Les Murray is not out of the question - was a strong contender in the past (high up on the betting list for eg)

However, I doubt it will be an Australian this year.
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September 20th, 2017, 12:39 am #64

“Australian writers who have been mentioned recently as Prize candidates include Peter Carey, David Malouf, Gerald Murnane, and Les Murray. Tim Winton, Kate Grenville, Shirley Hazzard, and Brian Castro also might be thought to have plausible chances”
per (re-post)
http://antipodesjournal.blogspot.com/20 ... prize.html

will be a pleasant surprise if Castro wins.
Winton is the dark horse amongst the Australians
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September 20th, 2017, 12:44 am #65

I will throw in my own choice of (neglected) Australian candidate: Thomas Shapcott
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September 20th, 2017, 1:14 am #66

Interesting that the blog mentions the "Australian Borges" Murray Bail as one to consider.
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September 20th, 2017, 1:16 am #67

Thanks for the names. Guess we can cross Shirley Hazzard off that...

And Winton is good, I really enjoyed Cloud Street and Breath, but I don't know if he's Nobel material. Might be too poppy, a la Murakami. But what do you think of Flanagan?

And out of the four Australians that usually come up, I'd say Murnane has the best chance now. Carey's recent books haven been awful. Malouf hasn't published much of note lately. And the only time I hear Murray's name is when looking at Nobel odds. He hasn't stopped publishing, but he hasn't increased his profile.
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September 20th, 2017, 1:21 am #68

Nicholas provides an excellent assessment and here are the posts on Murray, Murnane, Malouf and Carey.

Les Murray

http://antipodesjournal.blogspot.com/20 ... s-les.html

Gerald Murnane

http://antipodesjournal.blogspot.com/20 ... dates.html

David Malouf

http://antipodesjournal.blogspot.com/20 ... david.html

Peter Carey

http://antipodesjournal.blogspot.com/20 ... peter.html



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September 20th, 2017, 1:27 am #69

Flanagan is a consideration but little chance I would say although I did enjoy Gould's Book of Fish.

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September 20th, 2017, 1:30 am #70

Thanks for the links, although I will note they're from 2011.

Since then, Carey published The Chemistry of Tears, which is one of the worst books I've ever read, and his latest seems to be on par with that, while Murnane has had one of the most productive and acclaimed periods of his literary life so far (although I'm biased, since I really like his work). As for Murray and Malouf, you probably know more about them then me, but I get the feeling if the SA wanted to award them, they would've done it already (although I remember people saying similar things about Munro).
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