Nobel Prize 2016

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August 19th, 2016, 11:46 pm #1

As a start, here's the betting list, as of today, a few changes from last year:

http://www.nicerodds.co.uk/nobel-prize-in-literature

Haruki Murakami 5/1
Adunis 8/1
Joyce Carol Oates 10/1
Ngugi Wa Thiong'o 10/1
Philip Roth 12/1
Ismail Kadaré 14/1
Jon Fosse 17/1
Amos Oz 20/1
Péter Nadas 20/1
Adam Zagajewski 25/1
Doris Kareva 25/1
John Banville 25/1
Kjell Askildsen 25/1
Cees Nooteboom 30/1
Gerald Murnane 30/1
Jaan Kaplinski 30/1
Ko Un 30/1
Laszlo Krasznahorkai 30/1
Leonard Nolens 30/1
Olga Tokarczuk 30/1
Peter Handke 30/1
Jussi Adler-Olsen 33/1
Sirkka Turkka 40/1
Tua Forsström 40/1
Mircea Cartarescu 50/1
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August 19th, 2016, 11:50 pm #2

Wästberg gave a chat at Harvard a couple of months ago. nothin' of earth-shattering news:

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2 ... her-words/
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August 19th, 2016, 11:54 pm #3

In previous years I have been of the firm view that Mircea Cartarescu was not there yet, needed another significant novel.

Well that has come out (Solenoid) and from all reports, brilliant, and am looking forward to reading it this summer. It will take some years for this to filter through via translations (even a Nobel Committee commissioned translation would take some time), so not expected to win this year, but very good chance within the next 5-10 years I would say.
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August 20th, 2016, 12:09 am #4

as mentioned in other thread the extraordinary Italian poet/oral poet etc Francesco Benozzo, nominated again this year. per interview via UOB website (roughly translated) " you have already stated in interviews that your candidacy was a "protest" candidacy, and that you have never even remotely thought about the possibility of achieving the award. Yet on the official website of the Nobel Prize your name came first in a survey in which readers were asked to give their preference.".
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August 20th, 2016, 12:20 am #5

Did you read all of Orbitor in French?

I have a feeling Sara is going to steer the choice to another female. In the interview I posted, Wästberg said they wouldn't choose minority-language writers just as a token of literature everywhere - because of politicising the award and backlash - but I would be incredibly happy if Danius' tenure was all women laureates.

I'll post more names later today. I'm surprised ladbrokes isn't up.
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August 20th, 2016, 12:30 am #6

struggled thru the original Rom. years ago and Sean's version for v1.

I agree, my instinct tells me female winner and outside of Europe. Much to choose from there.
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August 28th, 2016, 2:52 am #7

Trying to find out more info about the fate of poor Tina Parri, AKA Fregolina, a teen Italian variety actress from the beginning of the 20th. Century, I found these news from 1908 about the Nobel Prize from this Spanish newspaper, La Correspondencia de Espagna:

The Medicine Nobel Prize will be shared by Drs. Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov of the Pasteur Institute in Paris and Paul Ehrlich of Frankfurt's Therapeutic Institute. In Chemistry the whole amount of the prize was won by Dr. Ernest Rutherford, professor and director of the Physic labs at Manchester University. The prize in Physics will be collected by Dr. Max Planck, professor at Berlin University. Finally, the Literature prize will not be awarded to Belgian writer Maurice Maeterlinck, as had been announced previously, but to the great English poet Algernon Charles Swinburne.

Max Planck didn't win that year, he had to wait until 1918. Maeterlinck had to wait until 1911. Swinburne, on the other hand, didn't get it that year, and by the next year it was already too late: he was dead by April. Who then won the 1908 Nobel in Literature? Why, that perennial titan, Rudolf Eucken, of course.

"El premio do Física lo obtendrá integro el doctor Max Planck, profesor de !a universidad de Berlín. Por último, en la sección de Iiteratura, el premiado no es el escritor belga Mauricio MaeterIinck, como se había dicho, sino el gran poeta inglés Algernson Charles Swinburne."
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August 30th, 2016, 6:47 am #8

Speculation 50 years ago
and other observations

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... es/305482/

much harsher/blunt on Eucken than Cleanthes

“Rudolf Eucken, a deservedly forgotten philosopher who was never important, was a scandalous choice in literature.”
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August 30th, 2016, 7:44 am #9

That's a pretty good article, thanks! To think that 50 years ago, American articles on the Nobel actually bothered finding out some basic facts about the prize and taking a look at the hows and whys and wheretos.
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September 3rd, 2016, 10:54 pm #10

Indian women writers unfortunately get scant consideration here and as far as I am aware Kamala Surayya was the last to get serious consideration, just beaten at the post by Seifert.
Someone from the lesser known languages/regions for instance Padma Sachdev (Dogri) would be a pleasant surprise.

here is a list of some (poetry) greats, all except Nandini Sahu no longer eligible:

http://www.thebetterindia.com/55708/wom ... st-poetry/
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