alliknowis
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February 8th, 2011, 4:00 pm #311

Jacek wrote:Hah, yeah... I organize my to-read list by country & author's birth-year, and I've noticed recently that (with the USA especially) I have lots & lots of English-language writers born between 1900 and 1950, but hardly anyone born later. Actually, I can cite the only examples here & now: China Miéville and Joshua Cohen (well, and DFW, but that's different). I, of course, also consider Tad Williams a beast of a writer, but he's been a favorite for years & years.

Have I passed over a whole bunch of worthwhile writers, or are young Americans & Brits just not cutting it lately?

Thankfully, Funhouse least keeps us updated about what's going on over in Australia, so that section of the list at least has some life.
Hollinghurst was born in 1954. Otherwise you're right- lots of good writers but almost no BRILLIANT ones.
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February 8th, 2011, 4:31 pm #312

alliknowis wrote:
Jacek wrote:Hah, yeah... I organize my to-read list by country & author's birth-year, and I've noticed recently that (with the USA especially) I have lots & lots of English-language writers born between 1900 and 1950, but hardly anyone born later. Actually, I can cite the only examples here & now: China Miéville and Joshua Cohen (well, and DFW, but that's different). I, of course, also consider Tad Williams a beast of a writer, but he's been a favorite for years & years.

Have I passed over a whole bunch of worthwhile writers, or are young Americans & Brits just not cutting it lately?

Thankfully, Funhouse least keeps us updated about what's going on over in Australia, so that section of the list at least has some life.
Hollinghurst was born in 1954. Otherwise you're right- lots of good writers but almost no BRILLIANT ones.
Well there's this guy, Vollmann I think his name was... Though it seems no new book from him this year. Slacking off, lazy bastard.
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February 8th, 2011, 6:24 pm #313

Ah, right! Hollinghurst is on my list already (thanks to you, alliknowis), I must've missed that when double-checking this morning. And Vollmann - where to start, sub-pet? The Royal Family?
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February 8th, 2011, 6:47 pm #314

What, Hemon & Lahiri don't count?

(non-immigrants? Zach Mason's just getting started ...)

it's not like I haven't complained before about the paucity, but it's relative not absolute.
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February 8th, 2011, 7:08 pm #315

Jacek wrote:Ah, right! Hollinghurst is on my list already (thanks to you, alliknowis), I must've missed that when double-checking this morning. And Vollmann - where to start, sub-pet? The Royal Family?
Can't go wrong with The Royal Family. Probably his best, and I maintain one of the best books ever. Definitely on the same level as Infinite Jest, on some days I'd say better than it. If you liked Dostoievsky's earnestness I think there's something similar going on in Vollmann (tho I haven't read enough D to be sure I know what I'm talking about). Anyway it's a masterpiece. Read it. :)
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February 8th, 2011, 7:13 pm #316

nnyhav wrote:What, Hemon & Lahiri don't count?

(non-immigrants? Zach Mason's just getting started ...)

it's not like I haven't complained before about the paucity, but it's relative not absolute.
No, they don't count...they're okay writers but come on, they don't compare to Pynchon or Roth or Hollinghurst or Banville or Patrick White or Cormac or Bellow or the true titans of the English-language novel for the past decades
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February 8th, 2011, 7:28 pm #317

alliknowis wrote:
nnyhav wrote:What, Hemon & Lahiri don't count?

(non-immigrants? Zach Mason's just getting started ...)

it's not like I haven't complained before about the paucity, but it's relative not absolute.
No, they don't count...they're okay writers but come on, they don't compare to Pynchon or Roth or Hollinghurst or Banville or Patrick White or Cormac or Bellow or the true titans of the English-language novel for the past decades
How'd we get from brilliant to true titans so quick?
Anyway, titanship takes time, and half your exemplars are at least umm generous ...

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February 8th, 2011, 7:31 pm #318

Banville? Banville's abilities are tricksy and dubious at best. I can happily agree to differ about Hollingshurst, but Banville's got more than a touch of the mountebank going on.
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February 8th, 2011, 8:00 pm #319

sub-pet wrote:
Jacek wrote:Ah, right! Hollinghurst is on my list already (thanks to you, alliknowis), I must've missed that when double-checking this morning. And Vollmann - where to start, sub-pet? The Royal Family?
Can't go wrong with The Royal Family. Probably his best, and I maintain one of the best books ever. Definitely on the same level as Infinite Jest, on some days I'd say better than it. If you liked Dostoievsky's earnestness I think there's something similar going on in Vollmann (tho I haven't read enough D to be sure I know what I'm talking about). Anyway it's a masterpiece. Read it. :)
Great, will do, & gladly! I'm rarely one to turn down an 800-page recommendation.
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February 9th, 2011, 2:05 am #320

oneofmurphysbiscuits wrote:Banville? Banville's abilities are tricksy and dubious at best. I can happily agree to differ about Hollingshurst, but Banville's got more than a touch of the mountebank going on.
Haha Banville the mountebank...why do you find him "dubious", too much of an epigone? And what do you think of Hollinghurst?
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