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Nice words & nice video. MES = The avantgarde Sinatra.Freddie And The Dreamers Come On wrote: My self denial amazes me at times. Last year in Manchester when Mark came out on stage. I stood gobsmacked ,rooted to the spot for about 15 mins. I didn't know what it was ,I suspected a tumour.
My Mrs said ...... Yet gigs still came . When he played in a wheelchair with his arm in a sling. I just thought "Oh he has fallen over" When they cancelled the USA gigs for the second time.
I thought 'How do they know he wont be fit in 3 months ?
When the gig was cancelled in Bristol I still rabidly checked "Fall News " for more gig dates.
Another thought about The Singles box set 'Surely there will be more to add "
I wasn't one for the abrasive early stuff ,I still struggle even now. For me it was "Shiftwork" I liked the really tight ,funky ,solid, motorik sound from the band and The Mark E couldnt give a fuck vocals.
It was the blend of the 2 intertwined.
I can live with the thought of no more albums .Though I have /had all the studio albums "HEX, PBL and KURIOUS I just couldnt get on with. There is plenty to get
Its the gigs. My first thought ,on hearing of his passing was no more "Good Evening We Are The Fall " Though I saw them at Glastonbury in 92 ,My mind is a blank.
The next time I saw them was Liverpool Carling in 2007 .They had a video screen with images moving to the music. Then the band came out to a Storming "Senior Twilight Stock Replacer"
I had to talk about it and I think it was called "Fall Net" and it was official.
I thought " what I have I been doing all these years " Child rearing was the answer. After my daughter was born I didnt get to see them until Liverpool Stanley Theatre Friday 2011.
"Nate" blew me away and again I found this forum. Since then I have tried to go to all the Manchester /Liverpool gigs.
Each was one special. The best ones for me seemed to end with 'Reformation" "Jabez" where the place was rocking and I couldnt help but smile at the bemusement on the Bouncers faces as we all
went wild for the drunk old man on the stage. Liverpool Arts Club in 2013 during "Reformation " he is patting everyones hands down the front and smiling 'How would we feel
" HOW WOULD WE FUCKING FEEL " I got goosebumps at that. Salford Lowry Sunday night . Was a seated gig, 3 bods tried to dance during Nate but were told to sit down.
By the encore "Reformation " the force could not be contained.
Gigs will never be able to Live up to The Fall ,thats a tough one for me. They were the pinnacle, when you have experienced the best ,everything else is just meh.
Going to a Fall gig was better then drugs,drink and sex.
I was hoping to take my lad next time out.
Yesterday ( he has been brought up listening to The Fall) Out of the kitchen came " Check the record ,Check The Record ,Check The Guys Track Record . He is not appreciated."
Priceless!Neal Cassady wrote: Flashback to Christmas morning 1984 and me hurriedly ripping of the wrapping to my new Fall LP - unfortunately parents (Dad blamed Mum and vice-versa) had brought me The Wall by Pink Floyd. I forgave them, eventually.
I've just written about this myself - I was 20 when my mum died, I'm now 44 and I've been a Fall fan for over 30 years.Neal Cassady wrote: It occurred to me in 20011 that I'd known Mark E Smith longer than I'd known my mum (she died in 2000)
Flashback to Christmas morning 1984 and me hurriedly ripping of the wrapping to my new Fall LP - unfortunately parents (Dad blamed Mum and vice-versa) had brought me The Wall by Pink Floyd. I forgave them, eventually.
Some lovely memories coming in from FoF members old and new, great stuff.
That's beautiful. Thanks.FieryJack99 wrote: At first I shrugged and thought 'Oh well I knew he was poorly and it wasn't entirely unexpected' but in the last few days it keeps hitting me and I find myself nearly in tears. It first hit me hard when I read Kay Carrol's tribute which was beautifully sad. Since then been feeling really sad, it feels like the end of a 40 year relationship, even though I never really knew the man, met him briefly after gigs once or twice where we exchanged a few inconsquential words.
On Saturday I took a trip up to Prestwich, saw the pictures taped on lamposts around the precinct there, then I went on bit of a pub crawl to his well known favourite haunts, started in the Foresters where I raised a pint of Holts bitter to his memory . Then walked down to the Ostrich on Bury Old Road and finished at the Woodthorpe where I drank several more pints of Holts. That was my own solo wake for MES.
In the Forresters I saw groups of 55-60 year old blokes sitting in corner sipping their pints who I thought could easily have been Mark E Smith had he not started the band, and continued working on Salford docks. That was the thing about him, he was so ordinary yet so different to everyone else at the same time, as one of the tributes said 'a genuine outsider'. 'You don't have to be weird to be weird'
Three days later I still in state of disbelief that it's all over, my last Fall gig was last May at Victoria warehouse, my first Marquee,London 17/12/78. I'll never do that again, I can't imagine going to see any other band again. Listening to 6music as I type all the new music being played sounds incredibly lame in comparion to anything the Fall have done.
RIP Mark you will be sorely missed.
Music for me will never be the same again.
Yes indeed. All things must pass. It seems too young, 60, but then for the fast life of Mark E Smith, it was quite old.jamtomorrow wrote: Although I never considered it the definitive word on The Fall, one thing I did like about the (fairly) recent BBC 4 documentary was the way it ended, by stating very directly that The Fall's was an ongoing story, with all the potential and possibilities that implies. When I heard the news that Mark had died, it was the sudden loss of that feeling that struck me most, the sense that it was all over.
However, Shakespeare will never write another play nor Dickens another novel, and they remain as alive in my mind and in the culture as a whole as they ever did. The same will be true of The Fall. The vibrations will live on, indeed.
Yeah, I haven't looked at the stats on my site in years but I bet I'm doing a land office business...not that it's "monetized" or anything....grudgefulboy wrote: Just went to The Fall's Spotify page. 325,000 listeners this month. I'm pretty sure it was about 125,000 just a few weeks ago.
Yep, I was averaging around 400 "unique visitors" per day (which seems unrealistically high to me, who knows how they do it), spiked to almost 7 thousand on the 24th, and am going at about a 2500 clip now....halcyon days. Well, it is nice that there are visitors although of course the occasion for it sucks.bzfgt wrote:Yeah, I haven't looked at the stats on my site in years but I bet I'm doing a land office business...not that it's "monetized" or anything....grudgefulboy wrote: Just went to The Fall's Spotify page. 325,000 listeners this month. I'm pretty sure it was about 125,000 just a few weeks ago.