Overrated / Underrated Fall Songs

rainmaster · Jan 12 2018, 09:22 PM #151 2018-01-12T21:22

academichamilton wrote:
rainmaster wrote:
academichamilton wrote:
rainmaster wrote:
academichamilton wrote: Birthday Song is neglected too.
How about 'Birthday'?
Shite
Underrated!
Underrated shite

Oh get back to your dewy eyed lurve song.

academichamilton · Jan 12 2018, 09:24 PM #152 2018-01-12T21:24

rainmaster wrote:
academichamilton wrote:
rainmaster wrote:
academichamilton wrote:
rainmaster wrote:
academichamilton wrote: Birthday Song is neglected too.
How about 'Birthday'?
Shite
Underrated!
Underrated shite
Oh get back to your dewy eyed lurve song.

GlamRacket · Jan 12 2018, 09:27 PM #153 2018-01-12T21:27

T.L.B. wrote: Overrated - Cruiser's Creek (pretty standard tune-led workout), Bill is Dead (ridculously bad lyrics, leaden dirge, loved by all non-Fall fans), Edinburgh Man (mid paced ballady dross), Dr Buck's Letter (is it actually good, or was it just a relief that it wasn't completely rubbish?), White Lightning (completely shit)

Underrated - Tuff Life Boogie (fantastic Meters-style syncopated funk track, great one-liners, also the 1st song that hinted at the future fragmenting of the lyrical approach with the 'give it to me baby one more time' bit), Words of Expectation (zenith of the 82/83 longform style, more great lyrics), Living Too Late (written off as a pointless single at the time, totally hypnotic if you get into it), Rollin Dany (easily the best rockabilly cover they did)

C'mon man. F-oldin' Money is better than Rollin Dany.

WetWetWet · Jan 12 2018, 09:28 PM #154 2018-01-12T21:28

rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?

GlamRacket · Jan 12 2018, 09:34 PM #155 2018-01-12T21:34

WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?

The beauty in the eye of the beholder has always been so great to watch in these forums. I am totally on the opposite page. I love Dr. Faustus but think Vixen and Happi Song blow. I

GlamRacket · Jan 12 2018, 09:36 PM #156 2018-01-12T21:36

WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?

While we're on the topic of Dr. Faustus, I will place Gross Chapel-British Grenadiers on my Underrated list.

rainmaster · Jan 12 2018, 09:50 PM #157 2018-01-12T21:50

WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?

We currently have Pamela on occasional vocals, I think she's overrated myself.

WetWetWet · Jan 12 2018, 10:05 PM #158 2018-01-12T22:05

GlamRacket wrote:
WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?
The beauty in the eye of the beholder has always been so great to watch in these forums. I am totally on the opposite page. I love Dr. Faustus but think Vixen and Happi Song blow. I

Lovely song, yes. But the BANANA! totally ruins it

WetWetWet · Jan 12 2018, 10:07 PM #159 2018-01-12T22:07

GlamRacket wrote:
WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?
While we're on the topic of Dr. Faustus, I will place Gross Chapel-British Grenadiers on my Underrated list.

Yes! Unassuming but typical for the whole record.

Lucifer over Bedfordshire · Jan 12 2018, 10:23 PM #160 2018-01-12T22:23

Overrated
The Classical
Hit The North

Underrated
Gross Chapel GB Grenadiers
Mark'll Sink Us
Frenz
Hot Aftershave Bop
That Man
Older Lover Etc
Clear Off
Bombast

GlamRacket · Jan 13 2018, 12:42 AM #161 2018-01-13T00:42

WetWetWet wrote:
GlamRacket wrote:
WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?
The beauty in the eye of the beholder has always been so great to watch in these forums. I am totally on the opposite page. I love Dr. Faustus but think Vixen and Happi Song blow. I
Lovely song, yes. But the BANANA! totally ruins it

Oh yeah. Kinda forgot that part. Not the finest Fall moment, was it? Ha.

Jan 13 2018, 04:55 AM #162 2018-01-13T04:55

GlamRacket wrote:
WetWetWet wrote:
rainmaster wrote: UNDERRATED

Vixen (it's lovely, nowt wrong with Brix vox)
Overture From I Am Kurious Oranj (more Brix penned guitar magnificence)

Happi Song (Eleni's very best, surely?)

Very true! The two first are the best examples of the Great Brix Feeling (the worst is Dktr Faustus). Will there be no more women in the Fall?
The beauty in the eye of the beholder has always been so great to watch in these forums. I am totally on the opposite page. I love Dr. Faustus but think Vixen and Happi Song blow. I

Seems like common sense to me...

thehippriestess · Jan 13 2018, 09:58 AM #163 2018-01-13T09:58

I covered quite a few of these in the Forgotten Frenz series back on the ol' blog but the one I'm not seeing is Get A Hotel which I always thought was an absolute beauty. I think it gets overshadowed by being in between Carry Bag Man and Victoria.

Longsighted · Jan 13 2018, 10:12 AM #164 2018-01-13T10:12

Love this thread!
"Overrated" = "Most people love it but I don't".
"Underrated" = "Most people don't love it but I do".
And even with the obvious subjectivity, the vitriol still flies from some people

.

For me...
Underrated: Bremen Nacht Alternative. I love it and I never tire of bouncing around the house to it, even after 30 years (almost!).
Overrated: Mr Pharmacist. Loved it upon release. And upon first 500 or so listens

. But long since grew tedious for me.

Cheers!

Cactus · Jan 13 2018, 01:37 PM #165 2018-01-13T13:37

A random sampling:

Some songs I seem to rate more highly than other folk:

Gentleman's Agreement.
Just Waiting.
High Tension Line.
Detective Instinct (love all the background noises and effects that permeate this one).
Das Katerer.
Living Too Late.
Petty (Thief) Lout. Simple quiet-loud formula but it gives me the shivers!

Some songs I seem to rate less highly than other folk:

The League of Bald Headed Men.
Systematic Abuse.
A fair bit of Extricate.
Cheetham Hill.
Bremen Nacht. (maybe you had to first hear it when those keyboards sounded 'current'. Approaching it in the early 2000s was tough going).
Cruiser's Creek.

FillardMillmore · Jan 13 2018, 02:27 PM #166 2018-01-13T14:27

thehippriestess wrote: I covered quite a few of these in the Forgotten Frenz series back on the ol' blog but the one I'm not seeing is Get A Hotel which I always thought was an absolute beauty. I think it gets overshadowed by being in between Carry Bag Man and Victoria.

Get a Hotel and Twister are two of my all time favorite Fall tracks - don't see them get as much love from other people - I don't remember Brix even mentioning them in her autobiography. Both tracks (especially the former) have a hypnotic property to them that is excellent.

rainmaster · Jan 13 2018, 02:55 PM #167 2018-01-13T14:55

Longsighted wrote: Love this thread!
"Overrated" = "Most people love it but I don't".
"Underrated" = "Most people don't love it but I do".
And even with the obvious subjectivity, the vitriol still flies from some people .

Quite right, I'm glad someone has reminded us of the actual basis of the thread.

Of course your suggestion of Bremen Nacht Alternative being underrated is nonsense, it's clearly highly overrated.

Longsighted · Jan 14 2018, 01:18 AM #168 2018-01-14T01:18

rainmaster wrote:
Longsighted wrote: Love this thread!
"Overrated" = "Most people love it but I don't".
"Underrated" = "Most people don't love it but I do".
And even with the obvious subjectivity, the vitriol still flies from some people .

Quite right, I'm glad someone has reminded us of the actual basis of the thread.

Of course your suggestion of Bremen Nacht Alternative being underrated is nonsense, it's clearly highly overrated.

jerome · Jan 22 2018, 05:01 PM #169 2018-01-22T17:01

The Mixer is underrated: perfect synth pop song. Two Faces is ace and underrated as is You're not up too much. These songs are far better than anything on the last 3 lp's seriously. 15 ways is another groovy pop song that Fall fans don't like very much I think...

Jan 22 2018, 07:34 PM #170 2018-01-22T19:34

jerome wrote: The Mixer is underrated: perfect synth pop song. Two Faces is ace and underrated as is You're not up too much. These songs are far better than anything on the last 3 lp's seriously. 15 ways is another groovy pop song that Fall fans don't like very much I think...

Paging @flickeringlexicon !

rainmaster · Jan 22 2018, 10:37 PM #171 2018-01-22T22:37

bzfgt wrote:
jerome wrote: The Mixer is underrated: perfect synth pop song. Two Faces is ace and underrated as is You're not up too much. These songs are far better than anything on the last 3 lp's seriously. 15 ways is another groovy pop song that Fall fans don't like very much I think...
Paging @flickeringlexicon !

@flickeringlexicon is wrong on this, but otherwise I'd agree with jerome.

academichamilton · Jan 22 2018, 10:54 PM #172 2018-01-22T22:54

jerome wrote: The Mixer is underrated: perfect synth pop song. Two Faces is ace and underrated as is You're not up too much. These songs are far better than anything on the last 3 lp's seriously. 15 ways is another groovy pop song that Fall fans don't like very much I think...

Yeah The Mixer is great. There's a couple of live performances that are top notch too, the well known TV one (below - the bass is just brilliant on it) but also one I came across on here but can't find now - quite late, not sure if Brix is there, live outdoor gig at a big festival, maybe in Canada, daytime I think. It's really pared back but mesmerising in that classic Fall way. Anyone know the one I mean?

WrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWray · Jan 23 2018, 10:02 AM #173 2018-01-23T10:02

I care not a jot for Athlete Cured.

But I frigging can't get enough of So What About It?

Wireless_Enthusiast · Jan 23 2018, 10:10 AM #174 2018-01-23T10:10

The Coliseum and Symbol of Mordgan are underrated and unfairly maligned.
Spectre vs Rector: overrated. The lowest point of Dragnet, together with Choc-Stock.

rainmaster · Jan 23 2018, 10:38 AM #175 2018-01-23T10:38

WrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWrayWray wrote: I care not a jot for Athlete Cured.

But I frigging can't get enough of So What About It?

Reported.