renewed thoughts on lighthouseshipping

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April 3rd, 2017, 10:44 pm #1

Felix and Sheba were the first OTP I ever had. More so than Valeshipping ever was. I think I was a teenager at the time, like 15? Probably younger and how I remember getting into arguments with Windshippers on FF.net forums. The most common topic back then, was the age gap. With Felix being 18 and Sheba 14, it (now, understandably) squicked some people out of the ship. Not me. I was closer to Shebas age and I saw the whole self sacrifical act Felix put forth as nothing but romantic.

I can now say, I get where those Windshippers back then were coming from. (why they figured just slap her in a relationship with ivan i never got but i get the age gap thing. i know.) Now that I have been Felixs age, and past that even, I can grasp the vast difference in maturity in just four years. It matters a lot more in teen years than it does later on down the line. Since then, I havent swayed from the ship, but kinda changed how I ship it. While there being a strong bond between them from the get go as unmistakable, the events during TLA may have been more platonic, or at least one sided than I had let on. Its reasonable to assume Sheba may be smitten with Felix, with her being 14, and teens crush on older guys all the time. As for it being reciprocated, though. I can only imagine such happening years down the road, when the gap matters less and less. Felix cares about her, at first wanting to protect, and eventually admiring her, very very much.

tldr; the fucking sjws got me

I didnt wanna bump the old lighthouse topic so I made a new one for fresh discussion.
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April 3rd, 2017, 11:38 pm #2

And then in Dark Dawn Camelot gave us

Nowell and




Piers.
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April 3rd, 2017, 11:45 pm #3

I mean I'm not supporting the ship at all but golden sun's mideval fantasy setting hardly makes a 14 and 18 year old weird

Kinda like how marrying cousins isn't weird amongst nobles and royalty, just different standards
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April 4th, 2017, 12:22 am #4

oh i will still aggressively ship them, its just a softer ship than the LET THEM MAKE OUT ON THE BOAT kinda ship and more of a "let them find comfort in one another" kinda ship
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April 4th, 2017, 1:12 am #5

That sounds more IC anyway tbh
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April 4th, 2017, 2:11 am #6

I haven't finished DD but now they'd be what, 28 and 24? That's fine by me tbh
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April 4th, 2017, 3:08 am #7

now this is all speculation, but im all about a worldly vagabond felix who leaves nothing but rumors in his wake, said to frequent the arid towns of northern gondowan, but no one is sure what for

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April 4th, 2017, 3:40 am #9

Momentime wrote:I haven't finished DD but now they'd be what, 28 and 24? That's fine by me tbh
More like 48 and 44
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that's literally the only reason
your charisma is too high
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Peytral wrote:You're basically the least biased person
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Solbowz wrote:except now i have to get up because the tv remote won't work
this is worse than being blocked by peytral
Solbowz wrote: BOYD PLS I should have known nobody talks to you
Solbowz wrote:are you a prophet
Bane wrote:jfc Necare just tell us how often you beat it
Saturos wrote:maybe I am a middle-school girl on the inside
Miral wrote:You're light, I'm dark
Peytral is Twilight
Jackal: wrote: Gonna be a good day today, I think
Still ridin' that "He's a she" high
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Hell: Because then I'd just be well drawn Iku porn c:
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Clean off the couch and hope whatever it is that he put on there doesn't leave anything behind
Set up the guest room and sleep there
Or sleep with my cousin
wrote:Peytral: The Peytral command utterly sucks.
wrote:Jackal: Oh man, if Kyuu's life was a visual novel, there'd be no H-Scene for the Kyuu/Akiko route.
Jackal: They'd be saying "Eh, we'll get to it tomorrow", but they never do. Really leave the players hanging.
On The Greatest RP Ever wrote:GSAlex: Evil schemes involving lesbian sex = win.
Peytral: I feel inclined to agree.
Jackal: So this has evil lesbian sex? Best RP ever.
Chrono Ivan: Top THAT, Q4C!
wrote:Necare: You all suck. I'm clearly the Temple's resident lolicon.
wrote:Akiko-chan: But I don't want a bigger penis!
wrote:Kyuuzai: I have now officially been converted to Zero fanboy.
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April 4th, 2017, 5:07 am #10

tbh lighthouseshipping was my least favorite precisely because of the age difference. like, what the fuck bro

on the other hand felix/mia is where it's at. No one ever thinks of it but tbh I think the two would have complimented each other well
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April 5th, 2017, 2:38 am #11

Love lighthouseshipping! It's one of my favorite pairings! I never really thought much about the age difference because of the medieval setting. It would have been pretty common back then. But I do like the thought of them being close friends and him falling for her as they get older.

One of the weirdest gs ships is probably Duskshipping. It makes no sense.
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April 5th, 2017, 10:30 am #12

I still call it sandshipping, though.

Also I never got the feeling either were the type to actually express any feelings during the events of the games - Felix is too focused on his duty and saving the world to really notice anyone, and Sheba's too unsure of her place in society, from her mysterious "birth" alienating her from her fellows as a child, to the deific status she was elevated to, to being effectively held prisoner by babi later in life to finally adventuring with a group of people who she only could have any trust in because one already risked his life to save hers. But later on, when Felix has a chance to relax from the urgency of lighting the lighthouses, a few years have passed and Sheba is a little more secure in both herself and the world around her, especially as psynergy makes a resurgence in - well not popularity per se so much as "existence" - I can see the foundation built during the games growing into more.

The age factor never really meant anything to me - 4 years isn't all that much time, though the difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old is significant by modern standards, in the time periods depicted, it means significantly less. However, the vague personalities given to the characters - and the admitted headcanon filling the resultant empty space of that vagueness - leaves me believing in the ship all the same.
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April 5th, 2017, 10:56 am #13

Crystallux wrote:One of the weirdest gs ships is probably Duskshipping. It makes no sense.
That's Felix/Karst right? I can see it happening. Saturos and Menardi finds Felix as a kid, take him to Prox, back then Karst was also a kid, Felix and Karst get to know each other, probably trains together etc etc one thing leads to another and suddenly we got babies

as for lighthouse shipping I don't like it because I don't like Sheba because she looks like a lightbulb :lightbulb:
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April 5th, 2017, 12:31 pm #14

she looks like a lightbulb cuz she gets all the bright ideas hue

Duskshipping is my second favourite Felix ship, after lighthouse. My preferred headcanon is that Felix and Karst kinda had a thing going on back when they were training together, as mentioned, then circumstances had to force them to opposing sides. Plus Felix holding Karst's hand as she's dying/after unknowingly killing her is omg so bittersweet/tragic

For Dark Dawn, I almost like to imagine that Felix is a vagabond/roaming because he's helping Sheba look for her home. =o or searching on her behalf.
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April 5th, 2017, 2:47 pm #15

The characterization is so sparse that you wouldn't know Sheba is only 14. She behaves like an adult from what I remember? We never see any evidence that she and Felix aren't equally mature. So I can see why they get shipped.

I like the idea that they're fond of each other in TLA, then fall in love when she's older.

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April 5th, 2017, 2:53 pm #16

What a cad, that lad.
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April 5th, 2017, 3:29 pm #17

Isn't the age of consent in Japan like 13?

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April 6th, 2017, 5:07 am #18

King in the North wrote:
Crystallux wrote:One of the weirdest gs ships is probably Duskshipping. It makes no sense.
That's Felix/Karst right? I can see it happening. Saturos and Menardi finds Felix as a kid, take him to Prox, back then Karst was also a kid, Felix and Karst get to know each other, probably trains together etc etc one thing leads to another and suddenly we got babies
Except for, you know, the part about her being dead.

That's what I don't like about it. When people try to bring her back to life and give them babies.

But other than that, I could see the possibility of them having some kind of relationship before all that crap happened like what Satty was saying.
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April 6th, 2017, 6:06 am #19

It also doesn't make sense because you know, the party fights them and Felix doesn't say a word. You'd think he might say something like oh hey, you're that girl I fucked and then left with your auntie and uncle. Hey I guess.
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pro means professional, i read about it on wikipedia. only pro knowledge ppl edit wikipedia, r u calling them liars?
wrote:As I sit here in the land of freedom and glory, soaring on the wings of the bald eagle; I look down at the earth below me. Soaring over the crystal waters of the US Ocean toward 3rd world counties like Sweden and Germany, I am reminded that not everyone was lucky enough to be born into greatness. A single tear is shed as I weep at the thought of Denmark and Norway and the poverty they endure. The tear falls
this ones for you satty wrote: After a long day of work, Kanye West goes to his Kanye Nest to take his Kanye Rest. He wakes up feeling his Kanye Best. Then he?ll get Kanye Dressed on his Kanye Vest to go on a Kanye Quest. He goes to church and becomes Kanye Blessed, then to a hotel room to be a Kanye Guest. Then to school to take his Kanye Test. He forgot to brush his teeth. Did he run out of Kanye Crest? His neighbor stole it, what a Kanye Pest.
wrote:sometimes i wonder how Real Men? survive... i mean they have "man-buns" and "man-purses" and "guy-liner", but that's honestly not much to survive on. how do they eat small delicate foods like berries without calling them "man-berries"? how do they perform domestic tasks like going to the store without calling it "man-shopping" or "mopping," if you will. can they wear regular necklaces or must they be called ""mecklaces""? how do they acquire the necessary food, water, and shelter without calling them "mood," "mater," and "melter," respectively? i just don't know how they do it, do they not cringe at every word that doesn't begin with 'm'? yet we don't even see their meakness (man-weakness) because they maintain such strong maces (man-faces). how are they so brave, mexperiencing this life without even the momfort of calling it "mife." are they allowed to dream? or can they only have "man-dreams" or "memes,"
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April 6th, 2017, 9:32 am #20

Crystallux wrote:Except for, you know, the part about her being dead.

That's what I don't like about it. When people try to bring her back to life and give them babies.
Who's even talking about bringing her back from life? We were talking about their past. Also,

>Shipping
>Following any kind of canon

Choose one.

Especially in a game like Golden Sun, where the characters have as much personality and character development as a pile of rocks. The whole point of shipping in any fandom is to write your own headcanon/fanfic. Naruto ended up with Hinata, does that stop anyone from putting Naruto together with literally any other character?

At least a shipping like Felix/Karst has potential for fun fanfic based on concepts that could've happened storywise.
Momentime wrote:It also doesn't make sense because you know, the party fights them and Felix doesn't say a word. You'd think he might say something like oh hey, you're that girl I fucked and then left with your auntie and uncle. Hey I guess.
As I was saying above, it's fanfic. Literally no shipping makes sense in Golden Sun because there's no story behind it except what just had to be accepted in Dark Dawn.
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